Kevin Cron and Steve Menendian review Throne of Eldraine, for Vintage.

0:01:00: Announcements
0:16:25: Modern Horizons Report Card
0:59:00: Throne of Eldraine Mechanics
1:04:12: Wishclaw Talisman
1:46:50: Once Upon a Time
2:01:00: Mystical Dispute
2:06:10: Shimmer Dragon
2:10:10: Witch’s Vengeance
2:20:00: Questing Beast
2:27:20: Emry, Lurker of the Loch
2:34:51: Deafening Silence
3:22:55: Stonecoil Serpent
3:34:47: Robber of the Rich
Total runtime: 3:50:50

Show Notes
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Hi all, we do occasionally dabble in Vintage and this weekend our host Zac made top 8 at the Mana Drain open. Here's the cast with deck and meta discussion and a tournament report. enjoy!

https://anchor.fm/eternaldurdles/episodes/Zac-top-8s-the-Mana-Drain-Vintage-Open-e7mkh6

Enjoy! This is a project I've been working on to try to piece together as additional content for my YouTube channel. I don't have a real set release schedule yet but will be hammering that down hopefully to probably every month or so.

https://youtu.be/ZfQuCdJh1LU

  • M

    Meloku does too much damage with Fastbond, but can go infinite with Gisela, Blade of Goldnight. The problem is Meloku is weak without Fastbond.

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  • C

    so I've been noticing that tangram's Survival list gave up countermagic (except for Mental Misstep) at this point.

    https://www.tcdecks.net/deck.php?id=31997&iddeck=276700

    Are we aiming to just 'be the beatdown' now and give up trying to fight a counter war these days?

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  • You should use Meloku The Clouded Mirror with fastbond 😃

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  • M

    I liked all 4 ideas for creatures.

    Dragonlord and Archon are nice in that they protect the combo, are decent beat down creatures and are hard cast able. For my list, their biggest downside is they are not blue, but in Ziasbond they are super strong.

    Sun Titan also has some potential. The downside with Titan is because he does not fly his ability to beat down is diminished. You run the risk of your opponent blocking with Orchard Tokens and Oathing into something better. So if your yard is hated out, Titan is problematic.

    Sanctum Prelate is probably not powerful enough, although being so easily castable is certainly an advantage.

    There is a question of whether Dragon Breath makes sense with Titan since it allows grabbing both Crucible and Fastbond in a single turn. I think it does not since the card is dead otherwise and a lot of time you either have a combo piece or you can grab Fastbond and dredge Loam which should be enough to buy you a turn.

    There used to be a Tidespout Tyrant combo with Triskelivus or Oona. I wonder if it is worth running some variant on that since it can ignore the yard or remove hate or beat down.

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