• @dracomnisgt said in Powerless Vintage Painter?:

    Hello all!
    I really don't have much of anything in the way of Legacy or Vintage cards, sadly. I'm just asking what a good deck could be good to start with besides Dredge.
    I also don't have a playgroup near me, which is why i am trying to get one started. Any ideas on how to start a Vintage playgroup?
    DracomnisGT

    2 things:

    If you're starting your own playgroup, I recommend allowing proxies, in which case a powerless build isn't necessary. In my opinion, without proxies, any non-established Vintage scene is likely to quickly die as people can't play the decks they play on modo, see on streams, etc. I'm pretty sure there's been multiple threads on this but I can only find two, both of which are podcasts. Wak-Wak and Lone Star Lhurgoyfs

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    @dracomnisgt where are you located?

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    For what it’s worth this is the latest version Of pure depths I played

    Turbo Depths:

    Maindeck (60)
    4 Dark Confidant
    4 Vampire Hexmage
    4 Crop Rotation
    1 Demonic Consultation
    4 Duress
    1 Imperial Seal
    4 Mental Misstep
    4 Thoughtseize
    1 Vampiric Tutor
    3 Abrupt Decay
    1 Demonic Tutor
    1 Black Lotus
    1 Lotus Petal
    1 Mox Emerald
    1 Mox Jet
    2 Pithing Needle
    4 Bayou
    1 Bojuka Bog
    4 Dark Depths
    1 Forest
    1 Strip Mine
    1 The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
    4 Thespian's Stage
    3 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
    4 Verdant Catacombs

    Sideboard (15)
    1 Fatal Push
    3 Force of Vigor
    2 Tormod's Crypt
    1 Pithing Needle
    2 Null Rod
    2 Chains of Mephistopheles
    1 chalice of the void
    1 Bojuka Bog
    1 Karakas
    1 The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale

    I would also consider lotus petal. I forgot to mention that. Your land count is a little low for Mox diamond. Petal not only speeds you up it also feeds Hogaak and doesn’t cost you as many cards from your hand.

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    I’m not actually worried about cost as I play online, but I did think it’s cool how cheap this is.

    I originally ran cabal therapy but switched it after losing a game to t1 mystic forge when I could have played a t1 discard. I’m sure therapy is better than I think, I’d like to find room for 1-2. Gitaxian probe also is very good

    Imperial seal felt really bad, but demonic and vamp are probably fine, if a little bit slow. I’ll try them over the crop rotations again

    I saw mental misstep, wasn’t sure if it fits in the hybrid decklist. It would do a lot of work against both Swords to Plowshares and Dark Ritual

    I think hogaak is a better answer to wasteland than pithing needle, but it’s worth trying

    Thanks for the input! It could be worthwhile to try pure depths to learn what holes I need to patch up with the hogaak plan

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