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  [HOU] Hollow One
  • fsecco

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  @gkraigher I have a G/W build of this typed up at home, just like you're saying ... I just haven't had the chance to test it because it involves a lot of cards that are very expensive on MTGO (Horizon Canopies, eesh).

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  [XLN] Unclaimed Territory
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  @garbageaggro Elder Deep-Fiend would be a 1UU (TKS) or UU (Smasher) flash creature that pseudo-protects a creature and taps down the opponent's board, but not sure the effect would be worth potentially having an uncastable 8-drop in hand.

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  [C17] Heirloom Blade
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  @mourningpalace ugh, sorry, I meant 'would' not 'will'.
  Well, who knows, maybe it will be reprinted in Ixalan, since it's a tribal centered set. Wotc, have been known to preview cards from upcoming sets in duel decks before. I dont know of any in commander products but there is always a first.

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  [C17] Mirri, Weatherlight Duelist
  • L0cke17

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  @l0cke17 It definitely fits naturally in any deck that's running Noble Hierarch (acceleration and exalted both match up nicely), but those decks aren't exactly super popular/successful right now.

  Amusingly I have a G/W list with a full complement of Moxes I've been wanting to test for a few weeks now and this might fit right in. Funny how that works!

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  [C17] Shifting Shadow
  commander 2017 • • POXEVERYTURN

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  It's a shame you can't use this in a Zur EDH list.

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  [C17] Kess, Dissident Mage
  • fsecco

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  I'd probably jam this in a burning oath deck for fun.

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  [C17] Teferi's Protection
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  @brass-man

  Gotcha. I read the specific forum rules and realized what I had done. I like the policy a lot, hopefully it keeps the topics on point.

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  [C17] Magus of the Mind
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  personally im gonna try it out just for the fun of it, three to four copies plus dragon breath might work, competitive, probably not, fun, hopefully.

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  [C17] Curse of Bounty
  • Protoaddct

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  @vaughnbros I was thinking more of being able to cast multiple loams per turn through moxen/mana dorks (1-2 before attacking, dredge them back and cast them again post combat), allowing more abuse of bazaar's filtering. Too bad Vinelasher Kudzu and Lorescale Coatl/Chasm Skulker don't have any evasion.

  The double trigger would have been good for any bug deck running deathrite and a mox jet. Oh well.

  Too bad a UGw noble heirarch time vault deck would probably lose to walking ballista much of the time.

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  True-Name Nemesis
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  i could be wrong but i dont think true name would be to good in a control style deck, yes it is an amazing card but it dosnt help with the plan to control the game, but in a fish style deck, it would be amazing, so it really depends on the actual deck your trying to slot it into.

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  Taigam, Ojutai Master
  • John Cox

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  I like it a lot. It might not slot into any existing deck right now but the card itself has a lot of possibility in the future. One of the most clever things about is recognizing the constraints of Rebound. You lose out entirely if the spell is countered (pilots with Narset PW experience can attest), so they designed him in a way to make the Rebound ability even stronger.

  It also illustrates that Ojutai and Dromoka rule the planes. Silumgar is a malevolent incompetent fool and Atarka is clueless when it comes to Vintage.

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  [HOD] Ramunap Excavator - Crucible With Legs
  • MaximumCDawg

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  @jhport12 agreed, Magus of the Moat is definitely the best card out of that bunch ... it was just fun to rattle off so many :D

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  [HOU] Nimble Obstructionist
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  @guanno1249 On Saturday @moorebrother1 had them in the sideboard of his Landstill deck

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  Natural Order
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  @BazaarOfBaghdad
  The thing is if it doesn't get mistepped your GSZ for dryad arbor could, or your Deathrite Shaman. These decks don't have a lot of one drops so at some point you have to concede to the possibility of misstep.

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  Nether Traitor in Dredge
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  @BlindTherapy yea that definitely makes sense. It is a compounded problem. It doesn't look like they're long for my list. I'm only running 3 Ichorid in the list so they def aren't maxed. I want to play test with some prized Amalgam as well. Also interested to see if Hollow ones make any sort of impact on dredge lists.

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  Green Sun's Zenith
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  Wouldn't this be better in a Survival deck?

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  [HOD]Abrade
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  @boggyb said in [HOD]Abrade:

  @Khahan It also hits Thalias and Wingmare. And every single other card in their deck except TKS and Smasher.

  On the play vs Eldrazi, which would you rather have?

  Fetch, Fetch, Mox, Abrade Fetch, Fetch, Mox, Ancient Grudge

  Think about it. Your grudge might hit two of their artifacts, but it's more likely they'll have 0 artifacts and 2 creatures, or 1 of each. In this case, I'd rather have the one Abrade.

  Agreed you still need STP but I think there's a strong case to be made that this is better than Grudge against Eldrazi, and it's more maindeckable, as it hits JVP, as well as Mentor about half the time, not to mention scads of random dorks.

  that's why I said you would use this instead of single-target artifact removal. We seem to have the same thoughts. I just wouldn't call it 'the dream sideboard' card you did. A dream sideboard card would at least also take out TKS.

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  [HOU] Tragic Lesson
  • fsecco

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  @DeaTh-ShiNoBi I'd LOVE to see an extensive article written about that kind of subject. I feel there's been quite some time since anyone tried to re-evaluate strategies like that in a good written piece.

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  [HOU] Firebrand Archer
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  Yep, I play the Null Rods ... and they are REALLY GOOD when they're down. These days I just play cautiously with the Mimics until I know what's what.

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  [HOU] Bloodwater Entity
  • Protoaddct

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  My first thought was "Bad snapcaster mage" and then I moved on. This card goes in the card catalog next to Spellheart Chimera and Engima Drake as 1UR fliers that care about instants and sorceries in your graveyard and will see zero play.

  However -- I note that they've been pushing this particular archetype a lot. When they revisit the same well repeatedly, its only a matter of time before something gets good enough to bust through into playable. I'm thinking in particular about Collected Company, and how it arose out of a long line of green 2-4 mana spells that let you look at the top X cards of your library and then draw a bunch of them if they were lands or creatures. (And Sudden Reclamation, which I think is an AMAZING card in casual or Modern but no one really agrees with me.)

  So, this card? Donkey farts. But, stay tuned, because this mechanic is eventually going to produce something good.

  @The-Gremlin-Lord said in [HOU] Bloodwater Entity:

  locking your opponent out of the game provided they don't do basically anything.

  Every once in awhile, even Capt. Trolly McTrollface makes me chuckle.