@marland_moore said in Cardboard:

Where does this leave us?

This leaves us exactly where we are today. In person non-proxy events are far and few between. Such events are only going to become rarer. Maybe in person Eternal Weekends will return as we exit pandemic times.

Do not get me wrong, I am saddened by this, but it is not likely to change for the better any time soon. I sporadically buy singles to stay somewhat up-to-date, but this is really only driven by a personal distaste of proxies.

The analogy that often comes to mind is that of racing cars. Formula 1 racing is not cheap, but there are other categories of racing available with a smaller barrier to entry. Cannot afford Formula 1, but still want some of the experience, leverage a simulator.

The single LGS within several hours of me that ran monthly vintage events permanently closed over the pandemic. If I am lucky another store will experiment with running similar events. If I am unlucky, playing with friends, or somehow convincing (and teaching) my seven year old son to play are the main options.

@marland_moore
Magic has become expensive. It's not just the cards but paying for leagues when your just starting out is rough too. It is what it is imo.

@john-cox

Just get FBB swamps. Or spend a little extra for betas

Thought I would mention. There's a full proxy Vintage web cam Discord now also. If you feel like playing with paper and can't (because of Covid, or your deck is worth more than your house). This is an option!
https://discord.gg/T6fMwZYH

Merry Christmas! 🎄☃️🎅🦌

@blindtherapy I'm not sure if this has changed but MTGTop8 didn't always contain every list in every event the last time I tried to use it. I think it depended on users inputting results and that typically only happened if someone cared enough to do so (like with decks they were personally interested in). The data from Goldfish is very different...

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I like it quite a bit.

There will always be Vintage players; whether or not they have access to Moxen/Power is another question. It's a shame prices are driven by jerkwad collectors these days vs. actual players; however, I need a downpayment for a house and hopefully the Moxes will fill the gap. That being said, going to a "Vintage" tournament w/o proxies it tough to find but when you do, you can usually wreck shop. We used to have a following here in Houston for proxy tournies but I am unsure if anyone still plays.

My biggest peeve about any event is the fact you have to prove you actually own the cards and carrying cool fifty thousand in your pocket just to prove you are legit is a little risky.

@throwaway
I should clarify contemporary vintage as online vintage. In that case, the current meta is less relevant to an article that quickly goes obsolete. Streaming captures that much better and is (IMO) a better medium for that content. At least much better than a podcast that takes a month to develop and publish.
Vintage also doesn't have the audience it had over the first few years of SMIP. There were several monthly power tournaments in most of the world. There were pick up games of no proxy vintage between games of standard. The world has changed.
I originally got into vintage because there were more vintage tournaments than legacy tournaments in my area and the barrier to entry was about the same.
I like when SMIP covers MODO, they usually do summarily, and I'm fine with that.

That's really sad news Rob. I played against Nick in the 2007 Top 8. He was a nice guy and it's awful to see that he's passed at a young age. Condolences to you and to everyone he was close to.

@botvinik

Yes.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Magic:the_Gathering_Standard(Type_II)

And all of the major tournaments have decklists and coverage on wizards main site.

What a wonderful thing to hear.

@moorebrother1 Hey man, sorry to hear you had a rough 2020 and glad to hear you're doing a bit better. Really glad to have you as part of the community. I'll take a listen to this podcast for sure, the mental side of the game is really important.

I am interested in this but I also don't understand the question.