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    • Brass Man

      HollowVine / Survivalless Survival
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      Chronatog

      @brass-man said in HollowVine / Survivalless Survival:

      I agree with @Rat3dE . I can't speak for everyone who runs [[The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale]], but it's a reasonable choice in specific matchups. Like you said, the HollowVine decks don't run a ton of mana to support a Tabernacle, but you'd bring it in only against decks that are even less equipped to handle it.

      It looks like partially The Tabernacle is a response to a specific metagame. Is this still the case now?

      I don't play online and very irregularly play in paper so my knowledge of the metagame is quite outdated. Nevertheless, I was under impression that Dredge is getting leaner and meaner as a response to fast combos and mid-range controls, not to mentions thanks to new forces (let the force be with us).

      I noticed that in the Vintage Challenge #12130342 Dredge and HollowVine 6-1'ed. It would be interesting to hear from the players, but I have no idea if PTarts2win or WingedHussar has a TMD account.

    • Brass Man

      HollowBears miniprimer
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      yangtime

      I'm conflicted about the benefit of the blue pitch counters over Thalia/Collector Ouphe. I played some games against Andy with Paradoxical Outcome and found it pretty unlikely to beat Thalia/Collector Ouphe on turn 1. I liked how proactive the deck was and it forced me to try to mulligan into hands that had Force of Will along with early action.

    • wfain

      Survival
      survival hollowone deck tech deck discussion decklist • • wfain

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      Cloud of Fairies for Clamp, and cool stuff with bazaar and academy, or too fun?

    • John Cox

      Hermit Survival
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      Yeah there’s been an active discussion about it for the last month or so in another thread.

      http://themanadrain.com/topic/2900/new-graveyard-approaches-with-hogaak-in-vintage-post-aug-2019-b-r-announcement/32

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      Survival Deck Report Article by Vintage Asia Champion
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      This is such a great write-up and primer for the deck. Great work!

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      ChubbyStreams: Lavinia Survival
      chubbyrain survi mtgo video • • A Former User

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      The Atog Lord

      Great post, Matt! Absolutely top quality.