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  Knight Ware Monthly Unsanctioned Vintage 10/15/2017
  west coast usa • • Krieg

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  Vintage Challenges - September
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  @smmenen https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jzlMEdKZXUgt6-EeCnf-AhiZFRX_XAD1SvRVQWHMAXc/edit?usp=sharing

  Everything there is copied from other spreadsheets. I just did the matchup winrates so hopefully those are correct.

  @ydl We get the full metagame data by manually observing the tournament as it is taking place (which is a pain).

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  9 October 2017 Proxy Vintage @Brash Brewing Co [8 players]
  • thecravenone

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  Good to see Ben take it down - the playmat just isn't the same without his name on it.

  He and I were texting afterwards, and he had some thoughts on the list:

  Spyglass kinda stunk. Glowrider was strong. He didn't draw Thorn all day, but it went fine without it. He only drew Arbiter once and it wasn't relevant, but there were lots of times it could have been good. 1-2 is a fine number, though Mindcensor might be better.
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  All of the vintage leagues in one place
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  https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/competitive-vintage-constructed-league-2017-10-06

  W Eldrazi w arbiter and GQ (lack of wastes)
  Leovold w zenith and creak wood liege
  Oath w salvagers and inferno
  Ravager Shops
  Pyro Delver

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  RIW Monthly in Livonia, Michigan (15 players) 10/1/17
  • Shaman Ben

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  @mourningpalace Thanks for coming out. I will get next month posted soon, its going to be november 5th (I am aiming to do the first sunday of every month.)

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  LCV 2017 - September - 29 Players - Barcelona - Top16 Decklists
  lcv2017 lcv mud ur delver • • PeAcH

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  @peach said in LCV 2017 - September - 29 Players - Barcelona - Top16 Decklists:

  Top 8 - Joaquín Fernández - Blazing Infect
  Maindeck:
  1 Bayou
  4 City of Brass
  4 Gemstone Mine
  4 Mana Confluence
  2 Underground Sea
  4 Blighted Agent
  4 Glistener Elf
  2 Ichorclaw Myr
  4 Plague Stinger
  2 Progenitus
  4 Reaper King
  1 Ancestral Recall
  1 Black Lotus
  4 Blazing Shoal
  1 Demonic Consultation
  1 Demonic Tutor
  4 Duress
  2 Flusterstorm
  4 Mental Misstep
  1 Mox Emerald
  1 Mox Jet
  1 Mox Sapphire
  4 Spoils of the Vault
  Sideboard:
  4 Grafdigger's Cage
  4 Hearth Charm
  1 Nature's Claim
  2 Red Elemental Blast
  4 Stony Silence

  How many people could name Hearth Charms 3 modes without reading?

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  Vintage Challenge - 9/9/2017
  mtgo vintage challenge metagame report • • diophan

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  @diophan

  Thanks! I really appreciate these

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  Eternal Extravaganza 7 Results
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  @cutlex
  When your plan is null rod, you must built differently your shop deck. I had tried snare thopter some time ago and it is a quite good creature.

  Edit : as for the wasteland, there are only 56 cards in the deck list so i guess they are there.

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  24 September 2017 Proxy Vintage @Brash Brewing Co [8 Players]
  • thecravenone

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  Who let those Lone Star guys leave wearing the same shirt? Girl, you best be changin' into your Plan B cuz we ain't goin' out matchin'.

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  9 September 2017 Proxy Vintage for Harvey Relief @4th Tap [21 players]
  • thecravenone

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  Our website guy (me) finally got off his fat ass and posted the podcast we recorded about this:

  https://lonestarlhurgoyfs.com/2017-09-21-Podcast-Post-Mortem-on-Saturdays-Tournament/

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  Vintage Challenge - 9/2/2017
  mtgo vintage challenge metagame report • • diophan

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  @hrishi Randy Buehler stated that no player can play the same list more than once this season.

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  LCV 2017 - August - 34 Players - Barcelona - top16 decklists
  lcv2017 leovold bug fish dredge • • PeAcH

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  @peach said in LCV 2017 - August - 34 Players - Barcelona - top16 decklists:

  Fowchorid

  lol at the 2nd placed list name "Fowchorid" straight from MTGGoldfish's decknames, good pun : )

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  Results from 9/9 sanctioned Vintage Trial (23 players) at RIW Hobbies in Livonia, Michigan
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  A U/B winning list without Time Walk, Demonic Tutor, or blue Delve draw engine? How exotic is that? Murderous Cut over Dismember makes sense to me if you're not running the other Delve spells. I still feel I'm missing something, but maybe I'm not seeing outside the box.

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  Vintage Challenge - 8/26/17
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  my new deck =equal butakov paradoxical
  1x mentor for 1x snapcaster
  Waiting for the new metagame

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  8/19/17 Team Serious Open - Proxy Vintage at Kidforce Collectibles, Berea, OH Results
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  I think Rich Shay was playing an RG version on his stream. I didn't see the video, just a screenshot.

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  Vintage Challenge - 8/19/17
  vintage challenge mtgo metagame report • • diophan

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  Off topic:
  @aaron-patten
  It would be close to disastrous if workshop were to be restricted alone. Nothing but C-c-combo everywhere.
  If shops is too good and needs restriction, then ancient tomb should go first but I say it shouldn't be restricted at the moment.
  The situation isn't so cut and dry anymore. Wotc have shaped the current meta and it can only get worse on the current path.
  Sphere needs to go.
  Mentor needs to go.
  On the other hand, I wouldn't mind scrapping the current meta (B&R list) and starting from scratch. I believe Vintage is overdue for a rebirth.

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  13 August 2017 Proxy Vintage at Brash Brewing Co [6 Players]
  • thecravenone

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  @sovarius
  The deck is a lot of fun to play but I did pretty poorly this time out. My thoughts thus far are in the thread for 4C Keeper [here].

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  Vintage Challenge - 8/12/17
  mtgo vintage challenge metagame report • • diophan

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  @islandswamp said in Vintage Challenge - 8/12/17:

  @smmenen Well, people can definitely play what they want more often on MTGO than anywhere else (besides 100% proxy and cockatrice, but for sanctioned, competitive play it's MTGO).

  The other thing is that card availability on MTGO is instantaneous. Let's say I play one of my terrible brews and get frustrated with the results. Then I see how Thiim's awesome MUDrazi deck has been crushing people. So I add my entire deck to my trade binder, get a few hundred tickets, and buy Thiim's deck card for card. That process is as quick as five minutes (if you want to scout the best deal it could take longer).

  This makes the case for paying attention to MTGO results as a barometer of the health of Vintage stronger, not weaker. Less stickiness in deck selection implies a "truer" representation of metagame composition and health of the format. The fact that Shops are so expensive on paper suggests that their actual metagame representation is artificially suppressed, especially in paper environments, relative to non-Shops strategies. That MTGO has greater substitutability generally makes it all the more remarkable that Shops are dominating.

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  Vintage Challenge - 8/5/17
  vintage challenge mtgo metagame report • • diophan

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  @chubbyrain said in Vintage Challenge - 8/5/17:

  Hope that answered your questions, Josh.

  Great response and exactly what I was looking for. I know some players can get pretty micro on evaluation of a single tournament and when you are dealing with only 3-4 decks being able to skew percentages, I was wondering if you thought that significant. You and Ryan spend a ton of time on this and that's why I was curious if it was lining up with your personal experiences and perhaps biases. When you see the data in a total sum, I think it paints a clearer picture, and I would agree with every point you made. Thanks for taking the time to do that.

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  Two Trials at Grand Prix Minneapolis (8/6 and 8/7)
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  I do want to add a caveat to this, as someone who also played in these events.

  The TO wasn't initially going to run them as Swiss. They were advertised as such. However, when we assembled at the Gathering Point, we were informed by a judge that because there were less than 16 of us that it had to be single-elimination if we wanted to play for the bye. We were told this is what Nick Coss wanted, and that the TO was simply going along with his wishes.

  It was only after Solly personally called Nick that the TO reversed their stance, and we were allowed to play four Swiss rounds, with the 4-0 players receiving the bye.