25 years ago today, the format that would become known as Vintage was created with the first mandatory Banned and Restricted List, midwifed by Beth Moursand.

To commemorate this special anniversary, I wrote a 10K word article in tribute, which I hope you enjoy!


PS, B&R List Facts from the end of the article:

Vintage Banned and Restricted List Facts:
• The current Vintage Banned and Restricted List is 46 cards. The smallest ever Restricted List was 16 cards. Not counting the initial restriction of Legends, the largest ever Restricted List was 54 cards, on January 1, 2004.
• There have been 96 restrictions, and 50 unrestrictions.
• There have been 39 changes to the Vintage Banned and Restricted List, not counting it’s initial formulation.
• The most cards ever restricted at a single time is a tie: 18, on October 1, 1999 and the inception of the list, January 25, 1994.
• The most cards ever unrestricted at a time is a tie: 5, on October 1, 1997, and September 20, 2008.

For episode 36, Geoff Moes (@ThallidTosser on Twitter), Nat Moes (@GrandpaBelcher), and Josh Chapple (@joshchapple) are joined by Erin Campbell (@OriginalOestrus) to talk about a bunch of fun Vintage topics including the importance of the community, the Vintage Super League, Dredge, and Two-Card Monte. She also helps us depart a little from our usual “discerning” food-and-drink discussion to a more “picky” angle.


Here’s the timestamped table of contents for your listening ease and enjoyment:
00:27 – Erin and the Vintage Community
33:20 – Preparing to Crush the VSL
40:28 – Nat Hate Drafts Onions
Full runtime – 1:03:53

We're also selling shirts, with multiple colors and styles to choose from. Last time (three years ago) we used the profits to upgrade mics and some of our live Magic streaming equipment!


  • this was a good event, well run, good people, glad to have artists at an event of this size, next time I won't get 9th on breakers.

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  • Start running a sideboard, it does not make you somehow more causal and it is an important facet of the game.

    1 Narset in the maindeck
    1 Karn, the great creator in the maindeck
    1 Mycosynth Lattice in the Sideboard
    1 Voltaic key in the sideboard (or manifold I guess, better to diversify)
    1 Trinket mage feels correct for the main deck
    1 Snapcaster could work as well, or alternately Mystic Sanctuary
    -2 Watery Grave, -1 Underground sea, +2 Island, +1 Swamp
    Lotus petal feels worse than Mox Opal to me, but that could go either way

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    I'd definitely say Narset is a permanent 1-of in just about any blue deck henceforth. Also helps with your timetwister if you run it. Could possibly even do some amount of Notorious Thief since you are UB already.

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    Thanks for your advice, I'll have to look into some of those cards.
    Would it make sense to replace the jtms with a timetwister? I have one, but I'm always wary of giving my opponent 7 new cards. Sometimes when someone plays a twister against me, it helps me out.

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