https://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/babel-fish-s1ep2-exploring-vintage-with-joe-dyer

Enjoy! I had a lot of fun helping Matthew with this. This is going to be a fun series to keep an eye on longer term since there's going to be inevitably be some great people and commentary in different formats (not just Vintage).

We recorded this a few weeks ago, but it's just went live this week. As you can see, we were really big on Mystic Forge.

https://www.eternalcentral.com/so-many-insane-plays-podcast-episode-92-core-set-2020/

0:01:00: Announcements, report card update
0:09:10: Steve’s recent Dredge performance
0:26:38: SCGCon 2019 Predictions/Results
0:33:10: Core Set 2020
0:34:05: Mystic Forge
0:52:25: Flood of Tears
1:00:40: Drawn from Dreams
1:01:55: Cavalier of Flame
1:07:30: Lotus Field
1:09:45: Embodiment of Agonies
1:13:35: Chandra, Acolyte of Flame
1:22:30: Drakuseth, Maw of Flames
1:24:30: Mu Yanling, Sky Dancer
1:27:22: Manifold Key
1:33:22: Veil of Summer
Total runtime: 1:45:40

Enjoy!

I haven't gotten to listen to it yet, but the folks at Eternal Durdles just released an episode discussing NYSE.

  • O

    As long as I'm babbling on about my magic cards...
    Oh beautiful mana drain.....
    Still one of the best counters ever?
    Or one of the saddest victims of magics forward progress?
    Banned in legacy? That's crap. With all the crazy cards and combos that have been played against me in legacy...I dont even play a blue legacy deck and I'd like to see it unbanned.
    But in my vintage deck, my counter suite used to be 4 force of wills and 4 mana drains. I've been slowly phasing out the drains for cheaper counters. Leaving 2 blue mana up seems harder and harder. I want to put 1 or 2 back in because I miss the awesomeness.

    But is it really too slow for vintage?

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  • L

    just wondering peoples thoughts, 8 hours of brewing time, no table time
    ive been out of Vintage for quite some time. figured i'd make a deck with my free time towards christmas.
    any comments are welcome.
    the 60 card deck:
    2x Arlinn Kord
    4x Burning-Tree Emissary
    4x Collector Ouphe
    1x Craterhoof Behemoth
    1x Dryad Arbor
    4x Dryad Militant
    4x Elvish Spirit Guide
    2x Forest
    4x Ghost Quarter
    3x Mayor of Avabruck
    3x Natural Order
    3x Noble Hierarch
    3x Once Upon a Time
    4x Rattleclaw Mystic
    4x Simian Spirit Guide
    2x Stomping Ground
    1x Strip Mine
    4x Taiga
    3x Wooded Foothills
    4x Wrenn and Six

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  • N

    In case everyone missed it, there are some real vintage cards - Black Lotus, Moxen, Ancestral Recall, Sol Ring - in the current free Arena event (an "Ashiok versus Elspeth" pre-constructed deck event to promote Theros: Beyond Death). It was quite startling to open a starting hand with Ancestral, Black Lotus, and Underground Sea in the Arena client.

    I would not be surprised if they bring a Vintage Cube to Arena at some point in the next year or so, though obviously the reliance on bots would be a weakness.

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  • M

    @serracollector You raise a good point about Sower. I had been running Sower and switched to Control Magic when Dreadhorde was super popular and there were a zillion Swords to Plowshares and Lightning Bolts.

    I am not sure that card is even good to bring in against Dreadhorde now. I mostly want Control Magic/Sower to handle Hollow One so I think the switch to Sower makes sense.

    I was considering dropping Control Magic all together.

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