@chikararyuu I know we chatted on FB. I've got a kid on the way this month so first weekend in August is tricky but if we happen to have family in town that weekend I'm in for back to back. Wholly contingent on family though.
As usual I greatly enjoyed the VSL last tonight, and especially the first match of LSV vs Brian Kelly, though it's too bad the "home teams" won't be going to the finals.
LSV got very lucky during multiple matches, but his performance last night, and all season really, has been extremely impressive. It has cemented my opinion of him as a master of the game, independent of format. Is there anything we can learn from his play? Is he taking lines the "Vintage experts" don't?
I don’t think there’s any doubt that he took unique & prescient lines of play in the match up against my team.
Although, there is also no doubt that the deck he played was a completely rogue option, and which involved inherently unusual lines.
I think, perhaps, identifying places where members of our community may be unwelcome and unsafe, and identifying which stores support us and which actively harm us, is perhaps the best possible use for the Community subforum.
I wouldn't go spreading that around unless I knew for a fact that the store did it. ... Honestly, this is a very irresponsible post.
I totally get where you're coming from here. It's very easy for this sort of thing to become a witch hunt - and if the initial post had stood on its own, it could have absolutely been a good shop with one asshole kid and a sharpie.
Luckily I think the TMD community as a whole is rational enough to dig a littler deeper before getting out the torches, and in this particular case it didn't take much digging to figure out that this was an actual witch worth hunting.
Do you know how some people say there was never a war John McCain didn’t support? Unfortunately, that’s my perception of your views of potential restrictions. I think most of vintage players are more concerned with having a smaller restricted list than the considerations that you seem most concerned about.
I think we can both agree that I am a peace-loving dove compared to Brian.
I actually think Vintage is in a good place right now. We'll see where PO ends up.
One was at a small proxy tourney a few years ago. I was playing vs some kind of Storm deck with my Oath of Druids. I kept a hand with FoW+Blue, Mox, land, Tinker, Yawgwill, Voltaic Key, blank.
I counter his first attempt to go off and put down the Key, but fail to draw mana while he draws nothing but mana. Eventually, both of us drawing blanks for what feels like forever, he hardcasts (!) a Darksteel Colossus, and starts beating down.
At six life, I draw what I thought would be my last card - a mox Sapphire. I think for about five minutes, before coming up with the correct sequence here: Play Mox, Cast Tinker for Lotus. Sac Lotus for BBB, cast Yawgwill. Recast Lotus, Mox from 'yard, Recast Tinker using Lotus mana for Time Vault, activate with the mana from the re-played Mox for infinite turns.
That was the first time I realised I was actually capable of finding small holes like this to eke out a win.
The other one was even better. It was sometime after that, and I was playing Two Card Monte vs Gush Storm. My opponent had succesfully gotten rid of Leyline and managed to kill a Helm. I had a Welder, an artifact, and an untapped Ancient Tomb in play, when he begins to storm off. Ritual, ritual, ritual, Demonic for Yawgwin, recast the rituals, recast demonic. At this point I say: "Hold it, I want to respond. Tap Welder, sac artifact, to get my Helm back in play, tap Tomb to activate it for 1. Ok?" He thinks for a minute, shrugs, then tries to put a card in his 'yard. At this point I say, "hold it, your deck is now removed from game.", and he goes "What?" "Read Yawgmoth's Will. It Leylines you..." He looked so dejected after that, I actually felt sorry for him.
But yeah. I won a game, and the match, because my opponent resolved a Yawgwin. How often has that happened in the history of Magic?
A few years ago, Star City started simplifying the deck names they used. So Canadian Threshold became RUG Delver. Ironically, in Standard, they had a deck called Solar Flare. Solar Flare was a black white deck named after an old deck by the same name. The old deck was called Solar Flare because it contained Angel of Despair, which looks like Krililn from DBZ, whose signature move is Solar Flare.
@moorebrother1 Bad luck only exists if the goal is winning. If the goal is to do everything that you can to cause winning to happen... no more luck, good or bad... only choice-making, good and in my case, amusingly bad.
Wow, @hierarchnoble thanks for that very detailed reply. That's a lot of information to chew on there. After considering what you've said about the ease of switching between decks without holding onto extra cards, it seems rather unimportant to keep anything you aren't using in a current deck. Very interesting! I like the approach of just holding tickets rather than cards. I don't switch decks all that often anyway, so that seems ideal for me. Thank you for sharing your thoughts! That was very valuable and should save me a lot of time and effort.
I've been really enjoying the team portion of the super leagues, not just vintage. Vintage obviously has a special place in my heart for them, but hell, I'm even looking forward to even the Standard one (I think that's today...).
It makes for an interesting dynamic, because sometimes, while I may be rooting for one team, sometimes I want to see 7 matches so I can see more decks. Heh.
Thanks everyone for taking the time to ponder this and comment.
@Stuart I especially appreciate the time you took to write up your thoughts on this. It's certainly food for thought. I think your point about being a group of organizers is super on point. I think I will try and see if there is interest from others to form a group to be stronger and so no one or two people end up with everything on their shoulders.