Grixis Pyromancer, decklist and some questions



  • Thanks for all the answers. I was thinking of going for the nature's claim, but since the deck kinda want to end things quite fast, I feel that the life gain from it doesn't feel great.

    From your suggestions I will keep my snapcasters, I'm pretty into the element of surprise anyway. And regarding the plague and illness, I'm quite embarassed :P I was just thinking about the mentor hate, not even considering my own tokens, lol. Sulfur elemental is a good choice I guess, nice to get down another body to bait out swords so I can have my pyromancers in peace.

    What do you guys think in general about the deck in the current meta-game? I have not come across many shops or white eldrazi decks so I still have a hard time figuring out how well positioned it is atm.



  • It is exceptionally difficult to build an adequate sideboard for any type of fair deck without white cards. Grafdigger's Cage is very close to unplayable.



  • I disagree that cage is unplayable and that it is impossible to build a sideboard without white.

    This deck was fine before Walking Ballista was printed and is almost unplayable now.



  • One deck I think you are absolutely showing no respect for is Dredge. Dredge will devour this deck. Your only defense is 3 Grafdigger's Cage, which is arguably the worst Dredge Hate played.

    The addition of Walking Ballista to the format makes Young Pyromancer a hard sell nowadays. I wish you luck with it though.



  • @wappla In which way is Grafdigger's Cage close to unplayable?

    @mediumsteve If I were to change the color black to white in this deck, how would you design a sideboard then? For the other part of the deck, I would exchange my 3 cabals for 3 swords. Don't know what to do with the tutor though, maybe change it for a merchants scroll?

    @msg67183 I don't have much experience playing against dredge, what are your favorite hatecards against the deck? Keep in mind that I might replace black with white, so you have that available aswell in that case.



  • Well, I'm a Dredge Player. If you change Black to White, you not as well just play Sylvan Mentor....
    The Better Dredge Hate cards are, in an order of best to worst, imo:
    Rest in Peace
    Yixlid Jailer
    Leyline of the Void
    Ravenous Trap
    Surgical Extraction/ Extirpate
    Tormod's Crypt/ Relic of Progenitus/ Bojuka Bog/ Nihil Spellbomb
    Containment Priest
    Grafdigger's Cage

    Note that this is my opinion, not actual fact.



  • cage is way better against Pitch Dredge han traditional versions built around 5-color lands and Nature's Claim.



  • @msg67183 said in Grixis Pyromancer, decklist and some questions:

    Well, I'm a Dredge Player. If you change Black to White, you not as well just play Sylvan Mentor....
    The Better Dredge Hate cards are, in an order of best to worst, imo:
    Rest in Peace
    Yixlid Jailer
    Leyline of the Void
    Ravenous Trap
    Surgical Extraction/ Extirpate
    Tormod's Crypt/ Relic of Progenitus/ Bojuka Bog/ Nihil Spellbomb
    Containment Priest
    Grafdigger's Cage

    Note that this is my opinion, not actual fact.

    I'm curious which Dredge you're playing? Because in my opinion (from the other side of the matchup), Priest is one of my favorite cards against Dredge.



  • @Griselbrother said in Grixis Pyromancer, decklist and some questions:

    @msg67183 said in Grixis Pyromancer, decklist and some questions:

    Well, I'm a Dredge Player. If you change Black to White, you not as well just play Sylvan Mentor....
    The Better Dredge Hate cards are, in an order of best to worst, imo:
    Rest in Peace
    Yixlid Jailer
    Leyline of the Void
    Ravenous Trap
    Surgical Extraction/ Extirpate
    Tormod's Crypt/ Relic of Progenitus/ Bojuka Bog/ Nihil Spellbomb
    Containment Priest
    Grafdigger's Cage

    Note that this is my opinion, not actual fact.

    I'm curious which Dredge you're playing? Because in my opinion (from the other side of the matchup), Priest is one of my favorite cards against Dredge.

    I play Traditional Dredge. Priest is pretty bad because it doesn't do anything to the Graveyard, it allows Bridge triggers, it allows Dredging, Flashback Therapies, etc. You can pretty much ignore a Priest by dredging into some bridges, cast a creature, then flashback a therapy and make Zombies....


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