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    • PeAcH
      PeAcH TMD Supporter last edited by Brass Man

      No live coverage via Twitter this time as I was not able to attend LCV July.

      This time the winner is Edu Medrano with unpowered Noble Fish!

      Once again, thanks to our beloved Roger Riera here are the top16 decklists:

      1st - Eduardo Medrano - Noble Fish
      Maindeck:
      4 Flooded Strand
      1 Plains
      3 Polluted Delta
      1 Strip Mine
      3 Tropical Island
      3 Tundra
      4 Wasteland
      2 Aven Mindcensor
      3 Judge's Familiar
      2 Kataki, War's Wage
      3 Meddling Mage
      4 Noble Hierarch
      3 Qasali Pridemage
      2 Spirit of the Labyrinth
      4 True-Name Nemesis
      1 Ancestral Recall
      2 Flusterstorm
      4 Force of Will
      3 Mental Misstep
      2 Spell Pierce
      3 Stony Silence
      3 Swords to Plowshares
      Sideboard:
      1 Aegis of the Gods
      3 Containment Priest
      1 Disenchant
      1 Krosan Grip
      3 Nature's Claim
      2 Rest in Peace
      1 Serenity
      2 Supreme Verdict
      1 Swords to Plowshares

      2nd - Rubén González - Gifts Control
      Maindeck:
      2 Flooded Strand
      2 Island
      1 Library of Alexandria
      4 Scalding Tarn
      1 Tolarian Academy
      2 Underground Sea
      3 Volcanic Island
      1 Blightsteel Colossus
      3 Jace, Vryn's Prodigy
      1 Notion Thief
      2 Dack Fayden
      1 Ancestral Recall
      1 Black Lotus
      1 Brainstorm
      1 Demonic Tutor
      1 Dig Through Time
      4 Force of Will
      2 Gifts Ungiven
      1 Gush
      1 Mana Crypt
      2 Mana Drain
      4 Mental Misstep
      2 Mindbreak Trap
      1 Mox Emerald
      1 Mox Jet
      1 Mox Pearl
      1 Mox Ruby
      1 Mox Sapphire
      2 Night's Whisper
      4 Preordain
      1 Sol Ring
      1 Subterranean Tremors
      1 Time Walk
      1 Tinker
      1 Treasure Cruise
      1 Yawgmoth's Will
      Sideboard:
      1 Mountain
      2 Sulfur Elemental
      3 Abrade
      2 By Force
      2 Nihil Spellbomb
      3 Ravenous Trap
      2 Red Elemental Blast

      Top 4 - Roger Lladó - Esper Mentor
      Maindeck:
      4 Flooded Strand
      1 Island
      1 Library of Alexandria
      1 Misty Rainforest
      2 Scalding Tarn
      1 Strip Mine
      3 Tundra
      3 Underground Sea
      2 Jace, Vryn's Prodigy
      4 Monastery Mentor
      1 Ancestral Recall
      1 Black Lotus
      1 Brainstorm
      1 Demonic Tutor
      1 Dig Through Time
      1 Flusterstorm
      4 Force of Will
      2 Fragmentize
      1 Gitaxian Probe
      1 Gush
      4 Mental Misstep
      1 Merchant Scroll
      1 Mindbreak Trap
      1 Mox Emerald
      1 Mox Jet
      1 Mox Pearl
      1 Mox Ruby
      1 Mox Sapphire
      3 Night's Whisper
      1 Ponder
      4 Preordain
      1 Spell Pierce
      2 Swords to Plowshares
      1 Time Walk
      1 Treasure Cruise
      Sideboard:
      1 Plains
      2 Kambal, Consul of Allocation
      1 Yixlid Jailer
      2 Flusterstorm
      2 Fragmentize
      2 Ravenous Trap
      1 Rest in Peace
      2 Serenity
      2 Swords to Plowshares

      Top 4 - Miquel Alcoriza - Paradoxical Mentor
      Maindeck:
      4 Flooded Strand
      3 Island
      1 Library of Alexandria
      2 Misty Rainforest
      1 Seat of the Synod
      1 Tolarian Academy
      3 Tundra
      2 Monastery Mentor
      2 Snapcaster Mage
      1 Ancestral Recall
      1 Black Lotus
      1 Brainstorm
      1 Dig Through Time
      4 Force of Will
      1 Mana Crypt
      2 Mana Drain
      4 Mental Misstep
      1 Merchant Scroll
      2 Mindbreak Trap
      1 Mox Emerald
      1 Mox Jet
      1 Mox Opal
      1 Mox Pearl
      1 Mox Ruby
      1 Mox Sapphire
      4 Mystic Remora
      3 Paradoxical Outcome
      3 Preordain
      2 Sensei's Divining Top
      1 Sol Ring
      2 Swords to Plowshares
      1 Time Walk
      1 Treasure Cruise
      Sideboard:
      1 Plains
      2 Containment Priest
      1 Emrakul, the Promised End
      2 Disenchant
      2 Fragmentize
      2 Hurkyl's Recall
      3 Ravenous Trap
      2 Swords to Plowshares

      Top 8 - Javier David - Ravager MUD "Mudhoney"
      Maindeck:
      4 Ancient Tomb
      4 Mishra's Factory
      4 Mishra's Workshop
      1 Strip Mine
      1 Tolarian Academy
      4 Wasteland
      4 Arcbound Ravager
      4 Foundry Inspector
      1 Lodestone Golem
      3 Phyrexian Metamorph
      4 Phyrexian Revoker
      4 Precursor Golem
      4 Walking Ballista
      1 Black Lotus
      1 Chalice of the Void
      1 Mana Crypt
      1 Mox Emerald
      1 Mox Jet
      1 Mox Pearl
      1 Mox Ruby
      1 Mox Sapphire
      1 Sol Ring
      4 Sphere of Resistance
      4 Thorn of Amethyst
      1 Trinisphere
      Sideboard:
      2 Wurmcoil Engine
      3 Dismember
      4 Grafdigger's Cage
      3 Null Rod
      3 Relic of Progenitus

      Top 8 - Adam Subirana - Esper Mentor
      Maindeck:
      4 Flooded Strand
      1 Island
      1 Plains
      3 Polluted Delta
      1 Strip Mine
      3 Tundra
      2 Underground Sea
      2 Jace, Vryn's Prodigy
      4 Monastery Mentor
      1 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
      1 Ancestral Recall
      1 Black Lotus
      1 Brainstorm
      1 Demonic Tutor
      1 Dig Through Time
      1 Flusterstorm
      4 Force of Will
      1 Fragmentize
      1 Gitaxian Probe
      1 Gush
      1 Mana Drain
      4 Mental Misstep
      1 Merchant Scroll
      1 Mox Emerald
      1 Mox Jet
      1 Mox Pearl
      1 Mox Ruby
      1 Mox Sapphire
      3 Night's Whisper
      1 Ponder
      4 Preordain
      1 Sensei's Divining Top
      3 Swords to Plowshares
      1 Time Walk
      1 Treasure Cruise
      Sideboard:
      4 Containment Priest
      1 Kambal, Consul of Allocation
      1 Notion Thief
      2 Flusterstorm
      2 Fragmentize
      2 Serenity
      2 Stony Silence
      1 Swords to Plowshares

      Top 8 - Jaume Bonet - Paradoxical Storm
      Maindeck:
      3 Flooded Strand
      3 Island
      1 Library of Alexandria
      3 Polluted Delta
      1 Tolarian Academy
      3 Underground Sea
      1 Blightsteel Colossus
      1 Snapcaster Mage
      1 Trinket Mage
      1 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
      1 Ancestral Recall
      1 Black Lotus
      1 Brainstorm
      1 Demonic Tutor
      1 Engineered Explosives
      2 Flusterstorm
      4 Force of Will
      1 Gitaxian Probe
      1 Gush
      1 Mana Crypt
      2 Mana Drain
      1 Mana Vault
      3 Mental Misstep
      1 Mox Emerald
      1 Mox Jet
      1 Mox Opal
      1 Mox Pearl
      1 Mox Ruby
      1 Mox Sapphire
      4 Paradoxical Outcome
      1 Repeal
      2 Sensei's Divining Top
      1 Sol Ring
      1 Tendrils of Agony
      2 Thirst for Knowledge
      1 Time Walk
      1 Tinker
      1 Treasure Cruise
      1 Vampiric Tutor
      1 Yawgmoth's Will
      Sideboard:
      1 Ancient Tomb
      1 Dismember
      1 Echoing Truth
      3 Hurkyl's Recall
      1 Mindbreak Trap
      1 Nihil Spellbomb
      1 Steel Sabotage
      2 Thoughtseize
      3 Tormod's Crypt
      1 Toxic Deluge

      Top 8 - José Luis Gallego - Tezzeret Control
      Maindeck:
      3 Flooded Strand
      3 Island
      1 Library of Alexandria
      3 Misty Rainforest
      1 Tolarian Academy
      2 Tropical Island
      3 Underground Sea
      1 Blightsteel Colossus
      2 Snapcaster Mage
      1 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
      2 Tezzeret the Seeker
      1 Ancestral Recall
      1 Black Lotus
      1 Brainstorm
      1 Demonic Tutor
      1 Dig Through Time
      2 Flusterstorm
      4 Force of Will
      1 Hurkyl's Recall
      1 Mana Crypt
      3 Mana Drain
      3 Mental Misstep
      1 Misdirection
      1 Mox Emerald
      1 Mox Jet
      1 Mox Pearl
      1 Mox Ruby
      1 Mox Sapphire
      1 Mystical Tutor
      1 Sensei's Divining Top
      1 Sol Ring
      1 Steel Sabotage
      2 Thirst for Knowledge
      1 Time Vault
      1 Time Walk
      1 Tinker
      1 Toxic Deluge
      1 Vampiric Tutor
      1 Voltaic Key
      1 Yawgmoth's Will
      Sideboard:
      1 Forbidden Orchard
      2 Griselbrand
      1 Hurkyl's Recall
      2 Nihil Spellbomb
      4 Oath of Druids
      1 Pithing Needle
      3 Swan Song
      1 Toxic Deluge

      9th - Gerard Concustell - Paradoxical Storm
      Maindeck:
      3 Flooded Strand
      3 Island
      1 Library of Alexandria
      3 Scalding Tarn
      1 Tolarian Academy
      3 Underground Sea
      1 Blightsteel Colossus
      1 Snapcaster Mage
      1 Trinket Mage
      1 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
      1 Ancestral Recall
      1 Black Lotus
      1 Brainstorm
      1 Demonic Tutor
      1 Engineered Explosives
      2 Flusterstorm
      4 Force of Will
      1 Gitaxian Probe
      1 Gush
      1 Mana Crypt
      2 Mana Drain
      1 Mana Vault
      3 Mental Misstep
      1 Mox Emerald
      1 Mox Jet
      1 Mox Opal
      1 Mox Pearl
      1 Mox Ruby
      1 Mox Sapphire
      4 Paradoxical Outcome
      1 Repeal
      2 Sensei's Divining Top
      1 Sol Ring
      1 Tendrils of Agony
      2 Thirst for Knowledge
      1 Time Walk
      1 Tinker
      1 Treasure Cruise
      1 Vampiric Tutor
      1 Yawgmoth's Will
      Sideboard:
      1 Ancient Tomb
      1 Notion Thief
      1 Dismember
      1 Echoing Truth
      3 Hurkyl's Recall
      1 Mindbreak Trap
      1 Nihil Spellbomb
      1 Steel Sabotage
      2 Thoughtseize
      2 Tormod's Crypt
      1 Toxic Deluge

      10th - Joan Anton Mateo - Mentor Control
      Maindeck:
      3 Flooded Strand
      1 Island
      1 Library of Alexandria
      2 Plains
      3 Scalding Tarn
      1 Strip Mine
      3 Tundra
      3 Volcanic Island
      2 Jace, Vryn's Prodigy
      3 Monastery Mentor
      1 Snapcaster Mage
      2 Dack Fayden
      1 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
      1 Ancestral Recall
      1 Black Lotus
      1 Brainstorm
      1 By Force
      1 Dig Through Time
      2 Flusterstorm
      4 Force of Will
      1 Gitaxian Probe
      1 Gush
      4 Mental Misstep
      1 Merchant Scroll
      1 Mindbreak Trap
      1 Mox Emerald
      1 Mox Jet
      1 Mox Pearl
      1 Mox Ruby
      1 Mox Sapphire
      4 Preordain
      2 Pyroblast
      3 Swords to Plowshares
      1 Time Walk
      1 Treasure Cruise
      Sideboard:
      1 Mountain
      2 Containment Priest
      1 By Force
      1 Disenchant
      1 Engineered Explosives
      1 Fragmentize
      1 Grafdigger's Cage
      1 Path to Exile
      1 Pyroblast
      1 Rest in Peace
      1 Stony Silence
      1 Supreme Verdict
      1 Swords to Plowshares
      1 Wear // Tear

      11th - Marcel Milià - Leovold BUG
      Maindeck:
      4 Misty Rainforest
      2 Polluted Delta
      1 Strip Mine
      3 Tropical Island
      3 Underground Sea
      4 Wasteland
      4 Dark Confidant
      4 Deathrite Shaman
      1 Leovold, Emissary of Trest
      1 Ramunap Excavator
      3 Snapcaster Mage
      2 Tarmogoyf
      2 Trygon Predator
      3 Abrupt Decay
      1 Ancestral Recall
      1 Black Lotus
      1 Brainstorm
      1 Ceremonious Rejection
      3 Daze
      1 Demonic Tutor
      4 Force of Will
      3 Mental Misstep
      1 Mox Emerald
      1 Mox Jet
      1 Mox Sapphire
      1 Null Rod
      2 Spell Pierce
      1 Time Walk
      1 Vampiric Tutor
      Sideboard:
      1 Notion Thief
      1 Yixlid Jailer
      1 Ceremonious Rejection
      1 Deglamer
      1 Dismember
      1 Dread of Night
      1 Fatal Push
      2 Flusterstorm
      2 Nature's Claim
      1 Nihil Spellbomb
      3 Ravenous Trap

      12th - Carlos Fernández - U/R Painters
      Maindeck:
      3 Cavern of Souls
      3 Flooded Strand
      3 Island
      3 Polluted Delta
      1 Tolarian Academy
      3 Volcanic Island
      1 Goblin Welder
      4 Magus of the Moon
      4 Painter's Servant
      2 Snapcaster Mage
      1 Sulfur Elemental
      2 Trinket Mage
      2 Dack Fayden
      1 Ancestral Recall
      1 Black Lotus
      1 Fact or Fiction
      4 Force of Will
      2 Grindstone
      1 Mana Crypt
      2 Mental Misstep
      1 Mox Emerald
      1 Mox Jet
      1 Mox Pearl
      1 Mox Ruby
      1 Mox Sapphire
      3 Paradoxical Outcome
      1 Ponder
      2 Pyroblast
      2 Red Elemental Blast
      1 Sensei's Divining Top
      1 Sol Ring
      1 Time Walk
      Sideboard:
      1 Ingot Chewer
      2 Sulfur Elemental
      1 Annul
      2 By Force
      1 Chalice of the Void
      1 Engineered Explosives
      2 Grafdigger's Cage
      2 Pyrokinesis
      2 Tormod's Crypt
      1 Trinisphere

      13th - Toni Anaya - Jace Control
      Maindeck:
      2 Island
      1 Library of Alexandria
      2 Misty Rainforest
      4 Polluted Delta
      1 Strip Mine
      1 Tolarian Academy
      3 Underground Sea
      2 Volcanic Island
      1 Blightsteel Colossus
      2 Notion Thief
      2 Dack Fayden
      2 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
      1 Ancestral Recall
      1 Black Lotus
      1 Brainstorm
      1 Demonic Tutor
      1 Dig Through Time
      2 Flusterstorm
      4 Force of Will
      1 Gitaxian Probe
      1 Gush
      1 Mana Crypt
      2 Mana Drain
      3 Mental Misstep
      1 Mox Emerald
      1 Mox Jet
      1 Mox Pearl
      1 Mox Ruby
      1 Mox Sapphire
      1 Ponder
      2 Preordain
      1 Sensei's Divining Top
      1 Sol Ring
      1 Time Vault
      1 Time Walk
      1 Timetwister
      1 Tinker
      1 Treasure Cruise
      1 Vampiric Tutor
      1 Voltaic Key
      1 Yawgmoth's Will
      Sideboard:
      1 Emrakul, the Promised End
      2 Ingot Chewer
      2 Sulfur Elemental
      4 Grafdigger's Cage
      2 Hurkyl's Recall
      1 Mindbreak Trap
      1 Propaganda
      1 Thoughtseize
      1 Toxic Deluge

      14th - Albert Domènech - U/W Delver
      Maindeck:
      4 Flooded Strand
      4 Island
      2 Plains
      1 Strip Mine
      3 Tundra
      3 Wasteland
      4 Delver of Secrets
      2 Kataki, War's Wage
      2 Snapcaster Mage
      2 True-Name Nemesis
      2 Vendilion Clique
      1 Ancestral Recall
      1 Brainstorm
      1 Dig Through Time
      1 Disenchant
      2 Flusterstorm
      4 Force of Will
      1 Mana Drain
      4 Mental Misstep
      1 Mox Pearl
      1 Mox Sapphire
      1 Mystical Tutor
      1 Ponder
      2 Preordain
      3 Stony Silence
      1 Supreme Verdict
      4 Swords to Plowshares
      1 Time Walk
      1 Treasure Cruise
      Sideboard:
      2 Containment Priest
      2 Ethersworn Canonist
      2 Blue Elemental Blast
      1 Echoing Truth
      2 Fragmentize
      1 Mindbreak Trap
      1 Path to Exile
      1 Pithing Needle
      2 Rest in Peace
      1 Supreme Verdict

      15th - Ferran Relat - U/W Stoneblade
      Maindeck:
      4 Flooded Strand
      2 Island
      1 Library of Alexandria
      1 Plains
      2 Polluted Delta
      1 Strip Mine
      4 Tundra
      3 Snapcaster Mage
      4 Spell Queller
      4 Stoneforge Mystic
      1 Vendilion Clique
      1 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
      1 Ancestral Recall
      1 Batterskull
      1 Black Lotus
      1 Brainstorm
      1 Dig Through Time
      4 Force of Will
      3 Mana Drain
      3 Mental Misstep
      3 Mindbreak Trap
      1 Mox Emerald
      1 Mox Jet
      1 Mox Pearl
      1 Mox Ruby
      1 Mox Sapphire
      1 Ponder
      2 Spell Pierce
      1 Sword of Fire and Ice
      3 Swords to Plowshares
      1 Time Walk
      1 Treasure Cruise
      Sideboard:
      2 Containment Priest
      1 Disenchant
      1 Flusterstorm
      2 Fragmentize
      2 Grafdigger's Cage
      1 Mindbreak Trap
      2 Path to Exile
      1 Pithing Needle
      2 Rest in Peace
      1 Swords to Plowshares

      16th - Sergi Hernández - Hexmage Depths
      Maindeck:
      1 Creeping Tar Pit
      4 Dark Depths
      2 Island
      1 Library of Alexandria
      4 Polluted Delta
      1 Strip Mine
      1 Swamp
      4 Thespian's Stage
      3 Underground Sea
      3 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
      4 Dark Confidant
      4 Vampire Hexmage
      1 Ancestral Recall
      1 Black Lotus
      1 Brainstorm
      1 Demonic Tutor
      1 Flusterstorm
      4 Force of Will
      1 Lotus Petal
      4 Mental Misstep
      1 Mindbreak Trap
      1 Mox Jet
      1 Mox Sapphire
      1 Pithing Needle
      1 Ponder
      1 Sensei's Divining Top
      4 Standstill
      2 Thoughtseize
      1 Time Walk
      1 Vampiric Tutor
      Sideboard:
      2 Dismember
      1 Flusterstorm
      4 Grafdigger's Cage
      2 Hurkyl's Recall
      2 Mindbreak Trap
      2 Null Rod
      1 Pithing Needle
      1 Toxic Deluge

      @peachmtg

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      • DanL15243
        DanL15243 last edited by

        60/64 for Force of Will, in the Top 16. Do you love the color Blue in Spain?? 🙂

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          PeAcH TMD Supporter @DanL15243 last edited by

          @Loukayza

          "The glue that keeps the format together" as they say.

          @peachmtg

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            A Former User @PeAcH last edited by

            @PeAcH Do you happen to know the total number of players? That Noble Fish list is spicy, I may have to try it!

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              nedleeds @DanL15243 last edited by

              @Loukayza said in LCV 2017 - July - 25 Players - Barcelona - top16 decklists:

              60/64 for Force of Will, in the Top 16. Do you love the color Blue in Spain?? 🙂

              Force of Will is fine, at least you have to pay some real opportunity cost. Congrats to the brave Painter innovator who only played 2 Missteps (granted he's maining 4 blasts 😛 ).

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                A Former User last edited by

                Really like the second place Gifts list - it's a very cool hybridization of Grixis Thieves and Gifts. And Noble Fish taking it down is sweet!

                Thanks for typing up the lists, @PeAcH, and congrats to all the finishers.

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                  xouman @nedleeds last edited by

                  @nedleeds said in LCV 2017 - July - 25 Players - Barcelona - top16 decklists:

                  Congrats to the brave Painter innovator who only played 2 Missteps (granted he's maining 4 blasts 😛 ).

                  I'm not fond of misstep at all. None of my decks have featured 4, 2 or 3 are the mean and as you say, playing blasts is less useful (and 2 snapcasters can recover them).

                  Besides, why should I want 4? To protect ancestral? I cannot fetch it, so in most games i don't see it. To protect grindstone or top? People rarely counter grindstone as it's a dead card itself, and while top is great, playing magus means i cannot fetch (removing all options to shuffle my deck).

                  Which cards would I counter? Stp, for sure, but it's on the low. It's dead against MUD, poor against dredge, mediocre against fish variants or heavy control. There are 23 preordains among other 15th top decks, averaging 1.5. I can be totally wrong, but I hate dead cards and I already play a bunch. I'd play 5th blast over 3rd misstep unless delver was heavy in the meta.

                  "Eron would be much less of a hassle if only he were mortal."
                  -Reyhan, Samite alchemist

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                  • PeAcH
                    PeAcH TMD Supporter @Guest last edited by

                    @hierarchnoble said in LCV 2017 - July - 25 Players - Barcelona - top16 decklists:

                    Do you happen to know the total number of players?

                    It's in the title 😛 25 players (last year we used to have 6 rounds though)

                    @peachmtg

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                    • PeAcH
                      PeAcH TMD Supporter @Guest last edited by

                      @ChubbyRain

                      Ruben has been hybridizing everything into Grixis Thieves for some time now 🙂 Medrano is a long Noble fish regular player. It's a well deserved victory!

                      @peachmtg

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                      • nedleeds
                        nedleeds @xouman last edited by nedleeds

                        @xouman well you could Misstep a Misstep that Misstepped your Red Blast? 🙂 Either way, good showing. Also null rod fish winning is cool. I love it when a Hierarch resolves.

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                        Sometimes caster on Tusk Talk

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                          A Former User @PeAcH last edited by

                          @PeAcH said in LCV 2017 - July - 25 Players - Barcelona - top16 decklists:

                          @hierarchnoble said in LCV 2017 - July - 25 Players - Barcelona - top16 decklists:

                          Do you happen to know the total number of players?

                          It's in the title 😛 25 players (last year we used to have 6 rounds though)

                          Bah, my eyes scanned that as the event happening July 25 for some reason. Thanks for entertaining my dimwitted question.

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