help newb with unpowered colorless eldrazi



  • Re: Unpowered Vintage Eldrazi (aka JacoDrazi) - A Double Tourney Report

    Hello! I am looking at playing in at least 1 vintage side event at EW (judging and playing legacy main event) and was wondering if anyone had an updated list? I want to at colorless unpowered eldrazi (no power, no shops) because I have the city of traitors, null rods, etc. With the thorn restriction and sorcerous spyglass printing I was curious. Do I play sol ring, mana crypt and /or mana vault, 3ball, chalice, lodestone, ballista, precursor? Assume missteps and mindbreak trap are in the sb? I have 2 trap. 1 or 2 crucible in 75? Thanks for the help!



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    This was the 75 I ran on MODO pre-Ixalan:

    Your suggestions seem to suggest that you view this deck as a lesser Workshops deck rather than a Fish deck. I recommend starting with this list and seeing where it takes you. If you want to try Sorcerous Spyglass start with one in place of a Warping Wail and see how it fairs when you draw it. Get lots of repetitions in before Eternal Weekend because this deck is completely unforgiving.



  • @hierarchnoble thanks! I'm just gonna be happy getting into a win-a-box or something after legacy. Just wanted to make something semi-respectable. I've been playing eldrazi in legacy and modern since OGW came out.



  • Hi,

    This thread has a tournament result with deck lists where I came in second with Unpowered Eldrazi:

    http://www.themanadrain.com/topic/1478/09-17-17-los-angeles-ca-unsanctioned-vintage-knight-ware-15-20-entry/2

    I really enjoy playing the deck. And although a lot of the cards are "givens" it's fun to tweak it to my tastes and style and what I think will work well.

    I wouldn't play any artifact with an activated ability so that the Null Rods are as one-sided as possible.

    Since you have some time before the event I would really recommend Jason Jaco's book available from Eternal Central. I'm sort of a newb to Vintage and it really helped me get started with the deck.

    Geoff



  • @geoffc Thanks! So you weren't running any of the spheres? How was the newlamog in the sb? Spicy ESG+world breaker too.



  • Hi,

    No spheres for me. The way it's setup it's not really a prison deck (unless falling into Null Rod/Crucible/Strip somehow). More of a very aggro deck with some disruption.

    I've played it in a few tournaments and have sideboarded in the Newlamog several times but never cast it ... and I think the World Breaker has only worked once. But I like the feeling of having "an out" to almost anything ... but then again I might get rid of it.

    The main reason for the ESG's was to be able to play out from under a Workshop's turn one sphere, which has worked several times. They will help with the World Breaker too though. For example Workshop player goes land, moxen, sphere or similar and I can go Ancient Tomb, discard ESG, Null Rod which can work out against Shops.

    Geoff


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    I've had mixed success maindecking Sol Ring and Mana Crypt. Sometimes you get a hand with a Crypt and a Null Rod, and feel like a silly goose. But sometimes you need a t1 Thought-Knot Seer and the mana rocks do the heavy lifting there.

    I've also toyed around with Mockery of Nature in place of the World Breaker, works ok if you're saccing a Matter Reshaper for the Emerge cost, and still KOs Moat on cast. Other times, it can sit in your hand (but that happens plenty with World Break anyway, it seems for me). I also run ESGs, and desperately want the modo promos in paper foil haha


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    @jimmycolorado said in help newb with unpowered colorless eldrazi:

    I've had mixed success maindecking Sol Ring and Mana Crypt. Sometimes you get a hand with a Crypt and a Null Rod, and feel like a silly goose. But sometimes you need a t1 Thought-Knot Seer and the mana rocks do the heavy lifting there.

    I've also toyed around with Mockery of Nature in place of the World Breaker, works ok if you're saccing a Matter Reshaper for the Emerge cost, and still KOs Moat on cast. Other times, it can sit in your hand (but that happens plenty with World Break anyway, it seems for me). I also run ESGs, and desperately want the modo promos in paper foil haha

    Ditto on Mockery of Nature. My Fish thread had to be euthanized because of trolls, but I had a list that ran it and it worked quite well. If you run colored Eldrazi don't go above one without running more than just 4 Cavern of Souls to support it (Elvish Spirit Guide, Unclaimed Territory, painlands, etc.)



  • I've tried Serum Powder and Eternal Scourge in this type of build with 4 Eyes and believe it's worth further testing. Sol Ring and Mana Crypt are very good.



  • So, has your testing been conclusive ?
    It seems that only powered white lists have shown results lately, maybe colorless is no longer fit for the metagame ?



  • @didor tbh I haven't had any time to test with it, since I only plan on playing vintage sides because I'll be judging everything else, I've been testing legacy. I also would need 3rd/4th old thalias and haven't bothered/wanted to buy them atm.


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