[BBD] Arena Rector

  • Bolas is fine and dandy, but pyroblast can blow him up.

    Turn 1 Apex predator though!

  • I have no idea what I want to do with this yet, but it's very very sexy.

    • Karn Liberated is probably the safest play
    • Bolas is the high risk, high reward play
    • Ugin is the "this would be good if shops did not exist" play
    • Garruk Apex is the "Nice Flash Rector walker you got there, hate to see anything happen to it" play

  • With 8 Rectors, Diabolic Intent becomes a bit more interesting.

  • Does anyone else think the name is kind of dumb? A rector administers a school. I guess this is technically the school of hard knocks but still.

  • @ribby I think they were going for the very obvious joke here.

    ArenHER? I nearly ReckHER!

  • @ribby The card names for this set, like the art, were clearly phoned in.

  • @ribby my thoughts as well. Feels like they're making sure we know they're printing new cards that resemble reserved list cards. Imho.

    The art is not great in this set. I might get a playset now, but definitely hoping for better art on the reprint later on. (FnM promo maybe)

  • Why would you ever need a Planeswalker when you can put in Omniscience and then play Yugioh (by throwing your cards around like a mentally challenged ape).

    "Gleemax, I choose you!".

  • @13nova I think for power level, you're correct (though I may have worded it more nicely 😐 ). There are no planeswalkers as powerful as Yawgmoth's Bargain or Omniscience and it's very unlikely there ever will be.

    I think if this card is going to be useful, it needs to capitalize on some way (any way) where Planeswalkers are better than Enchantments. What comes to mind for me is that Planeswalkers are generally more castable, stronger cards to already have in your deck - they require fewer hoops to jump through and fewer support cards to run. In my mind this pushes the card toward some use in a value-centric list, and makes hard to cast walkers like Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker less appealing (though not out of the question).

  • @serracollector Im interested in the 8 Rector potential. 4 therapy+1 Flash +8 Rectors+Some number of big enchantments/walkers.

    What else though? How do you fill out this deck to make 8 four drops, and numerous other high CMC cards work.

  • 8 rector
    4 See Beyond
    1 Ugin
    1 Nicol Bolas
    1 w ever PW
    1 Omniscience
    1 Yawg Bargain
    1 Form of Dragon
    4 Cabal
    2 Diabolic Intent
    Restricted Cards
    Dual lands

    See Beyond is the Key card just like in Oath. Tbh, you could prolly run 4 Oath with Gaeas Blessing to help out Diabolic Intent.

  • game often rector-show- flash deck
    the problem is that if you think about the possible problems of the deck: bad draw, blue cards to use force, casting cost etc ... etc ... 3x show and tell + emrakul -griselbrand are superior. to 4x arena rector + planeswalker.

  • @babau The difference is that Arena Rector and the PWs are good draws on their own. SnT and Emrakul/Grisel are dead without one another.

  • arena rector need a card for "kill" it and need 4 mana .... if draw nicolas bolas p. not is different to draw emrakul...... and very important show need you alternative win condition and need different hate.

  • @serracollector said in [BBD] Arena Rector:

    See Beyond is the Key card just like in Oath.

    I facepalmed so hard and reminded myself why I read TMD so rarely. This ststement is blatently false - most top teams at the time tried See Beyond the first week it came out, realized it was stink-ass terrible, and cut it immediately. Saying its a key card in Oath is like saying the wings of a train are the key component.... they dont even exist!

    Im pretty sure the bar for terrible deck design starts somewhere along “we have to play see beyond so we can shuffle our 18 dead cards back into our shitty deck”

  • Rectors have a huge number of advantages over Show and Tell:

    1. You can have 8 in your deck instead of just 4;
    2. Rectors do not need a second combo card in hand to be useful (granted, you do need eventually a way to sacrifice them before they get Plowed);
    3. Rectors are creatures (both are Clerics in fact) and so can be cast uncounterably using Cavern of Souls or Aether Vial.

    I would try a BW shell with mana and hand disruption for the early turns (Wasteland, Cabal Therapy, Thalia, etc) and a blue splash for Flash and broken blue spells (Time Walk, Ancestral). I'm not sure if it's good, but Tabernacle feels awfully cute.

  • just a question :
    have you ever played the deck or is it all theory?
    aether vial? need 4 counter on it for put rector if play it in round 1 you play rector round 5 ?really fast combo!!!!
    is vintage non standard
    try to write the list of 60 cards !!!

  • @babau Considering the card has yet to be released I would say all of us are theory crafting.

  • a starting list takes a moment is the playtest that takes some time the problem is that here of discussions of confused ideas that have no practical feedback ... if you played the deck rector -flash know how much it helps show an tell and that without the deck is unplayable......you win a lot more time thanks to show and tell that of the rector