Life from the Loam in Dredge

  • @vaughnbros Woah that's a super cool list. I'll have to scrounge up the tickets for force and unmask... I'd love to see it in action some time!

  • @dunnydee

    Oh its definitely not a budget dredge deck.

    I think it works well in the Outcome heavy landscape though. All the answers are at 0 and 1 mana to keep the deck low to the ground, but it still has the grind factor against fair decks with the Loams+Pits+Canopies.

  • @vaughnbros Yeah it's got a bit of a price tag but it seems really promising, I'll have to buy a set of Loam's tonight and give it a shot, although I'll have to use mindbreak trap over force and think of a budget replacement for the canopy's and unmask.

    Maybe I'll try tranquil thicket for now.

  • @vaughnbros
    I see you have completely cut Bridges now, interesting to see.

  • @vaughnbros

    I've always really liked your take on Dredge. I noticed this iteration removes the dark depths SB package in favor of hollowed one. Do you find this to be fast enough against PO decks and other fast decks in games 2/3 where they are also SB'ing? I really liked how your older lists could use LftL to recur Depths/Stage through Containment Priest and Grafdigger's cage. The current SB seems much more susceptible to the usual hate. What have been your experiences with this SB in comparison?


  • @msg67183

    I've found Bridge just leads you to play a number of suboptimal cards to try and support it, while in reality its just a win more. In game 1, you dont need a bunch of zombies to win with a turn 2/3 Griselbrand and post board Bridge has always been fairly unreliable.


    The Dark Depths combo was pretty slow too.
    I liked the reliability of the uncounterable kill before, but that has become less true with the uptick of cards like Swords to Plowshares and Hangarback Walker. As for the speed of the "transform", you dont actually need to bring the Hollow Ones in for every game 2/3. The 8 pitch spells, 4 claims, 2 grudges, 2 pits is a comparable anti-hate package to a more traditional list and can fight through any type of hate.

  • @vaughnbros This is beautiful. I might just have to take it out for a spin myself this weekend.

  • @vaughnbros
    Any vids to see you/this list in action?
    I saw LSV run his Dredge list a day ago, I think, but he runs 4 Bridge. I Don't really enjoy his streams much though.

  • @ten-ten

    I have not streamed in quite some time (a lot of issues trying to stream where I lived the last couple years), but may start again in a couple weeks after I finish moving into my new apartment.