[GRN] Mission Briefing



  • @fsecco Because Oath is a combo deck you just need to survive until you get the combo working. Even if you only have two blue mana, using it for Mission Briefing to hold up counter spells to just keep you in the game is sufficient for that purpose.



  • @fsecco Here is the list I have been testing. I'm 4-1 so far. The game I lost was my first match of the morning where Tendrils was the last card in my opponent's hand, so all I had to do was not cast anything before it. So, what do I do? I cast a spell and add to the storm count! Otherwise I was in a very dominant position.

    1 Black Lotus
    1 Mox Emerald
    1 Mox Jet
    1 Mox Sapphire
    1 Mox Ruby
    1 Inferno Titan
    1 Griselbrand
    1 Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
    4 Oath of Druids
    1 Sylvan Library
    1 Ancestral Recall
    1 Brainstorm
    1 Dig Through Time
    2 Flusterstorm
    3 Mental Misstep
    4 Force of Will
    1 Gush
    1 Mindbreak Trap
    2 Pyroblast
    2 Mission Briefing
    1 Hurkyl's Recall
    1 Misdirection
    2 Misty Rainforest
    1 Polluted Delta
    2 Tropical Island
    3 Forbidden Orchard
    2 Volcanic Island
    1 Island
    1 Library of Alexandria
    1 Strip Mine
    2 Flooded Strand
    1 Underground Sea
    1 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
    2 Dack Fayden
    2 Preordain
    1 Time Walk
    1 Treasure Cruise
    1 Demonic Tutor
    1 Gitaxian Probe
    1 Merchant Scroll
    1 Night's Whisper

    Sideboard
    2 Tormod's Crypt
    1 Emissary of Grudges
    1 Blazing Archon
    1 Muldrotha, the Gravetide
    2 Nature's Claim
    1 Ancient Grudge
    4 Ravenous Trap
    1 Sudden Shock
    1 Firespout
    1 Show and Tell



  • @fsecco the current deck I'm playing was completely built around mission briefing, it was a 4 of, now it's a 3 of. It's double blue isn't a problem for the build I have. It's very much control and not combo



  • @tittliewinks22 But what does briefing do to you that Snapcaster didn't do? I mean, what's a build around deck featuring 4 Missionn Briefing that wasn't possible with 4 Snapcasters?

    @JimTosetti I don't see Oath as a combo deck, specially not decks with Gisela and Inferno Titan. But yeah I can see whan Briefing can do for the deck. 🙂



  • @fsecco having the ability to cast cards for alternate cost from the graveyard has been very relevant for me in testing. Mindbreak/Ravenous trap, gush, misdirection and force of will from the graveyard is something snapcaster can't do effectively.

    On top of that I'm using Taigam to give mission briefing uncounterable and rebound.



  • @tittliewinks22 Interesting. I'm very excited by Mission Briefing, but the casting cost and neutral card advantage make me wary. If you Brief a FoW, you're losing a lot of cards. Snapcaster is great because he's always CA.
    I guess this card just makes Gush never able to be unrestricted again though 😛



  • I'm still not very used to using this card optimally, but I think this card will see some play in Vintage. More than in Legacy or Modern. It's really awesome in control-combo type decks where you need that little extra draw to get your combo started, or that one card to counter a spell before you go off the next turn. Casting Gush, Misdirection, and Fow (Daze even, in tight situations) for their alternate costs, Mindbreak trap, and so on, with just two blue mana in mid-late game makes your deck much more threatening than Snapcaster. If you leave two or three blue mana up, the opponent has to think, 'are they going to cast Mana Drain? Mission Briefing? FoW and then Mana Drain? Misdirection then Mission Briefing?' etc. etc.. This is in addition to all the things that Snapcaster would normally be able to flashback, provided you have enough mana (which is usually not a big problem).

    Two blue mana are not a big deal for blue decks (which are the decks that would be running this card main deck) mid-late game; if you draw it early you can pitch it to FoW or Misdirection, or put it back into the library with Brainstorm. Obviously for Pardoxical Outcome, Delver and such, Mission Briefing does not replace Snapcaster, but for many other decks, Mission Briefing seems to introduce many more interesting and effective aspects of play than Snapcaster.

    I don't know how much play this card will see in Legacy and Modern. I don't think there are nearly as many uses with this card in either format compared to Vintage, given that draw spells are cheap, and counterspells are more varied and versatile in Vintage. That's what I hope, at least, so I can pick this card up for cheaper than it is right now.



  • @nower1990 I'm 4-2 with it in Legacy Miracles. Games I lost weren't due to that card but to stuff like BR Reanimator turn 1 combo with Chancellor backup or Show and Tell with Boseiju. The card is real and is great with Predict (although I believe AK Miracles to be better right now). In Vintage, in theory, I find the UUU harder to achieve (yes, 3 blue because USUALLY you'll be flashing back blue spels that cost mana).



  • I'm testing one in bomberman and a playset in Legacy solidarity minus the Snapcasters. So far, feels better than SC in solidarity since it actually digs us further into our deck and more likely to chain multiple Mission Briefing ,thanks to Hightide.



  • @ten-ten said in [GRN] Mission Briefing:

    I'm testing one in bomberman and a playset in Legacy solidarity minus the Snapcasters. So far, feels better than SC in solidarity since it actually digs us further into our deck and more likely to chain multiple Mission Briefing ,thanks to Hightide.

    Would mission briefing serve better as SC #2 instead of replacing snap caster mage in bomberman? Maybe its meta dependent but I dont know how many times flashing in snap caster as a surprise blocker to take out an inspector or revoker has saved my hide. But instant speed UU - find a combo piece is pretty juicy.



  • @khahan
    The choice between Snapcaster and Mission Briefing is highly dependant on your build and what role you want/expect it to perform. I do run two Gifts Ungiven/ Thirst for knowledge in my deck since I'm heavily relying on the Salvagers/Pyrite Spellbomb combo, so, Mission Briefing might give me more mileage than Snapcaster. Although, Snapcaster doesn't get hit by Flusterstorm, so, there is that.
    My only gripe is the double blue for Mission Briefing.

    This card is definitely not easy to evaluate without further testing.



  • @ten-ten said in [GRN] Mission Briefing:

    @khahan
    The choice between Snapcaster and Mission Briefing is highly dependant on your build and what role you want/expect it to perform. I do run two Gifts Ungiven/ Thirst for knowledge in my deck since I'm heavily relying on the Salvagers/Pyrite Spellbomb combo, so, Mission Briefing might give me more mileage than Snapcaster. Although, Snapcaster doesn't get hit by Flusterstorm, so, there is that.
    My only gripe is the double blue for Mission Briefing.

    This card is definitely not easy to evaluate without further testing.

    I played 1 mission briefing and 1 snap caster in my build yesterday in a 24 man tournament. Entered top 8 as the #1 seed but lost to Dan Miller in round 1 of top 8 after taking him out in the swiss rounds.
    Through all my games I drew mission briefing twice. Once it got pitched to FoW, though if I was able to untap without needing to pitch it, I had planned to use it. The other time it got put back on top with brainstorm and shuffled into the deck because I just didn't need it. 2 of my swiss rounds were against shops and I sided it out in both of those games 2 and 3. So all in all, I didn't really get much experience with it.



  • @khahan This is why I'm playing 3 Mission / 0 Snap in my Legacy Miracles. You need to really dive in if you want to test the card. 🙂



  • @fsecco said in [GRN] Mission Briefing:

    @khahan This is why I'm playing 3 Mission / 0 Snap in my Legacy Miracles. You need to really dive in if you want to test the card. 🙂

    In vintage I wont be cutting snapcaster for mission briefing. Too many shops in the area. The ability to flash in snapcaster and kill a revoker or inspector is way too high. Plus when I dont hit my combo, my game plan is salvager, trinket mage, snapcaster beats. Actually happens more often than combo'ing off. 😉

    The fact that I have a combo kill in my deck is the only reason I'm considering mission briefing. Digging up to 3 deep AND flashing back a card from the yard? That's a spicy meatball right there. In theory.



  • @khahan I'm just saying that if you want to actually stress test the card, you should play more than one. Otherwise your results are anedoctal at best 🙂



  • @ten-ten Do you have a spare decklist? I was looking for various applications for Briefing, but never thought about it in Bomberman.
    I need to try it in there, as Bomberman is one of my petdecks. 😉



  • @fsecco said in [GRN] Mission Briefing:

    @khahan I'm just saying that if you want to actually stress test the card, you should play more than one. Otherwise your results are anedoctal at best 🙂

    Exactly my thoughts, been running a brew with 3 briefing (was 4) and 1 snapcaster. It's been so good in testing I'm going to run it at champs.



  • @fsecco said in [GRN] Mission Briefing:

    @khahan I'm just saying that if you want to actually stress test the card, you should play more than one. Otherwise your results are anedoctal at best 🙂

    I tested a few copies in the 2 weeks leading up to the tournament, but didn't get enough time to really give it a good go. I went with 1 because of the number of shops decks in my meta. Its sided out in games 2/3 against shops because of the UU cost. Going to continue testing but honestly will probably go a different direction.


 

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