@protoaddct said in Single Card Discussion - Lavinia, Azorious Renegade:
If the card is busted enough to merit fighting to drop it turn one, there are other normally suboptimal cards that could see play to enable it.
Not saying they will, just saying that you may need to broaden your horizions a bit.
I'm also starting to think that all these hatebears with abilities that already protect themselves may be well serviced by players running blossiming defense / vines of vastwood to cut off the few other avenues players have to take them off the board.
I also thought of Manamorphose - this forum is so aggressive agaist new ideas during spoiler season that I didn't even mention it though
Seems like the best of the 4 since it's the only one that is CA 0. It's the only counterable by Fluster though, but turn 1 that doesn't matter that much. Mox Diamond only works in lands I guess, because you need 2 lands in hand for a turn 1 Lavinia. Chrome is somewhat viable though. A few PO lists ran it, right?
@fsecco If you are on Miracles in Legacy this card is good tech against Grixis Control and the Miracles mirror early in the game. They have to remove it to cast FOW against you. It is also decent against ANT, Dredge and Reanimator. I'm not saying it will blow them out but it is going to make Miracles and StoneBlade better decks in that meta.
FoW is bad in Grixis or Miracles mirrors. I side 1-2 out every time. No way Lavinia improves those matchups. MAYBE when the deck played 4 Probe and 4 Cabal Therapy, but even then, it messes up your Terminus/Supreme Verdict timing. MAYBE it messes with Surgical Extraction, but they can pay mana and I always think it's funny whoever tries to beat Miracles with Surgicals.
Against Dredge, Ant and Storm, maybe it's OK, but wouldn't you rather have an extra Surgical or Ethersworn Canonist or another Fluster or whatever? I think Lavinia is for Vintage and Modern only.