last edited by Thewhitedragon69
@aelien said in Single Card Discussion - Lavinia, Azorious Renegade:
Iam not sure if your question as to why they chose to use a static "opponents can't do x" ability was rethorical and you expect an answer like "because it's not powerful enough" or something like that. If that is the case I do not agree with that. Leovolds card drawing ability is powerful enough, ogThalia is, scap clan, kambal...are all powerful enough without saying "you can't do X"
Actually, no they are not powerful enough. Leovold's card drawing ability is nice, but were it not for his "opponents can't draw cards" ability, he'd be trash. Thalia is a sphere - she basically reads "players can't play spells for their mana cost" and is one-sided due to the build she is featured in. Scrap clan and Kambal are decent, but are not game winning in most cases. They are SB cards vs storm and are marginally good vs a couple decks. They do squat vs dredge or shops. The reason WotC went with "player can't do X" ability is because it's the kind of ability most likely to work. All the "give my opponent a chance to play around this ability" abilities basically make the creatures more annoying vanilla bears. Tacking 2 on to a counterspell is miles worse than "can't be countered". How hard is it to get 2 mana in vintage to pair with your free FoW?
There may be more interesting abilities than "can't do X," but those abilities are not playable/viable in the wide spectrum of Vintage meta. Lavinia DOES give the opponent a choice...play lands to cast spells and stop being greedy with your 13 land manabase. Play REB, Pyro, Fluster, Drain, and stop expecting every counterspell to be free.
Lavinia is good as she is castable early, stops free counters, stops Workshop ramp, shuts down combo, stops dread return, negates moxen (you can't cast them or use their accel to go beyond your land count). She's basically everything bears wants - a versatile tool vs every deck...you know, like FoW is. Bout time bears got something as widely useful as FoW.