How did you start playing Vintage?
I've been a casual player since 1995, when locally you couldn't purchase Revised without several bundled packs of Fallen Empires. I've always thought the price of Power 9 was ridiculous and resolved to not buy in. In 2013 I realized I had the means to buy in and have had fun ever since playing paper Vintage.
One thing I did to help prepare was to compile a spiral-bound book of over 100 deck lists of Vintage archetypes since 2011.
My first online MTG purchase was a play set of Sarcomancy in 2001.
Aaron Patten last edited by Aaron Patten
@ydl Where is this book now?
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I started playing Magic in 2013 (Magic, not Vintage) after watching the coverage of Eternal Weekend that year. Soon after I found TMD and went to a few local events. I met a lot of friends and had a blast and I've been involved ever since.
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I first found out about Magic in 1995 and since then I just wanted to play the game as much as I could but that wasn't quite possible since it was very expensive (like 3,5x more expensive than nowadays). But from the crappy cards I got I started trading with other kids around for cards that seemed to be good to me. Years later I found out that the cards I got this way were actually pretty expensive and that the trades I made weren't really fair. But who knew? There was nothing like price lists or game stores at that time. I simply recognized a good card when I saw one.
I played T1.5 till Legacy came to existence. Looking back at that time the decks were quite overpowered. I used to play mobo-blue control and usually faced staxx, dark ritual/necropotence or worldgorger combo. Goblins were popular as well. With the new format the players I knew and played with/against stopped playing Magic or some of them started to play Type 2. I did not understand what happened at that time but for me it meant that I either find a different format to play or also take a break. I started playing Extended because T2 did not seem interesting to me at all...I had no understanding for that format.
Few years later I moved to Czech Republic and started looking for some Extended/Legacy players but they were not present. Standard was the most played format so I joined the ranks of Standard players for some time, eventually taking a break because it was really boring. After that I really wanted a format in which I could play control again so I started playing all formats including highlander, EDH, Modern etc. I delved into Legacy but that was more and more creature based and more 'value' based as other formats. Extended was no more. Modern was a joke and I really wanted to go back to playing Mana Drain and that is how I slowly ended up playing Vintage. But it took me a very long time to realize that I should have done this very long time ago. People in my country don't accept me well though and they gave me a really hard time so I left paper Magic to some extent and started playing Magic Online.
When Wizards of the Coast made the announcement about Power Nine Challenges I decided to buy a Vintage deck and participate. After few months of grinding limited I got enough tix to buy a Vintage deck and my new adventure could begin. Joe Fiorini added me to a Vintage group on FB (I tried to register at TMD but my registration never went through) and then a whole new world opened up to me. You guys helped me realize how much I still love the game. I found players I'd like to call my friends. I got to play a format in which I actually feel like playing Magic again.
For the sake of Vintage I started participating in paper Vintage tournaments. I was afraid it would be as bad as in other formats but it wasn't.
Thank you for sharing your stories.
I started playing around 95 from Revised. My brother's classmate had started playing and my brother started talking about this game. Having seen the game in action, it didn't take long before I bought my starter and some boosters. And from that moment on I was completely hooked to magic. Unfortunately, power cards were not available anywhere in Finland, where I live, so I've never had any pieces, not that I really cared. Games among my friends were usually a battle between Serra Angels and Sengir Vampires and the occasional Shivan Dragon before we started investing in dual lands and other more serious strategies. I played daily for several years but took a long hiatus between 1999 and 2015 and started playing MTGO standard first in August last year. Shifted entirely to Vintage on MTGO in January-February this year after having read a lot about it in Islandswamp's vintage 101 series and also watching a lot of videos on YouTube and becoming increasingly interested in trying. So now I can finally play with power cards against incredibly skilled players. Sure, I lose more than I win but still having tons of fun. Offline I've also started playing again with one of my friends from back in the good ol' days. Magic is just as fun as it always was although the level of complexity is far higher now than back in the 90's.
My parents bought me my first pack(s) from Ice Age when I was about 7..at the time they were just cards in a binder and nothing more. Most of them were sold at a garage sale a few years later and to this day I can't say if there was anything valuable in there. Fast forward to Oddessy Block I started playing Standard and Block (Psychatog, Maddness and Mirari's Wake mostly) Until I saved up $80 and bought the Mox Pearl sitting in the showcase for like 6 months at Tri County Flea Market on Long Island (it was marked at $110 but the owner knew me and knew he had been sitting on it for 6 months...). A couple of the locals played Type 1, and when Onslaught came out I dove in head first and bought dual lands, Force of wills, Mana Drains and as much power as I could afford. I played Psychatog first, then almost exclusively TPS. My dad was great enough to drive me all over creation (Waterbury, Richmond, Chicago, and Rochester for SCG P9 events) as well as the small and infrequent local events mostly run by Nick Detwiler. I sold my collection in 2006 (foolishly) before departing for College after I had grown bored of the local scene and lost the motivation to travel for events that only happened every so often. As is so often the case, I followed the format from afar for almost 10 years and then shortly after getting married I decided it was time to get back into it since the local Long Island scene was (and is) flourishing. I can enjoy 2-3 15-20 person events a month if I wish, not to mention a great crew that always seems to be around to play some games on the side.
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I started playing Magic in 1994, but the move into Vintage came in 2003 or 2004 when they started rotating extended and I could no longer play dual lands in my decks. I did not have power, and amusingly enough the first thing I built was Nether Void Black, not using the duals that were so important to me that I changed formats. It took about a year to assemble my first set of power and eventually I fell so in love with Worldgorger Dragon that I stopped playing everything else.
I started playing Magic during Onslaught era. I was pretty casual kitchen table until I decided to take it seriously with Ravnica. At this time I was 15-16 and started to get into MTGO because I couldn't drive yet. When I got my drivers license (Dissension), I cashed out of modo for a real Type 2 deck and went off to FNM. Eventually I saw Allen Fulmer, Dan Herd, Dave Rietnaur, and a few others playing Vintage. Dan Herd was the one who showed me The Mana Drain. I just thought it was cool to see that Allen's only permanents in play were Smokestack, Bazaar of Baghdad, and 1 or 2 other things. His opponent was obviously struggling with some kitchen table deck. I started playing Sulivan Solution on MWS and in real life before switching to Meandeck Gifts. Allen and I played the Meandeck Gifts mirror all the time. Before you know it, Dan Herd insisted that I go to the next Blue Bell tournament (Montco). At the time I worked weekends for someone who wasn't willing to give me time off. So for the tournament, I just said fuck life and didn't show up for work. I audibled to another deck right before the tournament (with almost no practice): I played Brassman Gifts. My first match was against Allen, and I got smoked. The rest is history.
RIP Dan Herd
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Bought my first mtg cards at a yard sale of our neighbors two houses down, around summer of 1998 They were all artifact, red and green cards from ice age, tempest, stronghold, weatherlight and a bunch of forests, mountains, ghost towns and and some anti shadow land of sorts. Woman said they belonged to her son but he was in collage and didn't want them anymore. She said she would look for more but her husband had already sold the rest by that that time.
Without a clue as to how to play, my brother and i pretty much played by what we assumed was the correct way. Quickly figured the Mana cost were paid by lands. Playing a land a turn, one card a turn, attacking only with one creature a turn. Only 40 card decks with one of any card except lands of any kind. Player with no creatures left on table and no library lost the game.
A year later I came across a comic book store that was closing out and once again, most of the mtg stuff was gone since the man was selling at 80% off! All he had, and recommended anyway, was Classic starter box and urza's saga decks.
From that point on I would walk 1hr to a store just to play free for all with six other guys there. They all had powered decks and never went easy on me. My first play was swamp into duress, taking my opponents duress. "there is hope for him after all" another guy said. Lol. Few turns later I suffered Palinchron, Morphling, Ernahm, Jackallope Herd, Lighting Dragon and Hyppie beats. What fun I had.
Fast forward and I'm still jamming duress, tinker, academy and necro into my decks. Could never get into type 2 or even extended, later on.
I still say type 1 when referring to vintage. sigh
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@Ten-Ten That sounds pretty crazy. Glad you persevered.
Saying Type 1 is fine. I needed to learn to use Standard, Modern, Legacy, Vintage terms because players that came to my store were often confused when I said Type 2. I had to realize that many of those players play Magic for less than 5 years mostly. Among Vintage players though this will probably never be a problem. So far it seems that there's not so many new players playing Vintage (HrishiQQ only comes to mind from those that actually said something about how they started playing Magic)
Started in Nemesis, really started to get into the game in Invasion block (most fun standalone block of all time... though the flavor of Tempest and Urza blocks was pretty amazing).
Standard wasn't interesting so I moved up to Extended, then to Vintage when Extended stopped being a thing. Was here when Brainstorm/fetchland started dominating the format, rode through all the restrictions and changes over the years since.
Vintage remains the king of all formats and really just keeps betting better. But Standard these days is pretty bitchin'... I might never have gotten into Vintage if Standard hadn't been such a clown show 15 years ago.
A friend gave me a longbox of cards sometime back in 97 and I've been hooked ever since. I was just a kid but the people on my paper rout were generous tippers. I bought my first real vintage card sometime in 2000 when I saved up to buy a Library from the local store for $80 to run in my mono black ritual negator deck like a champ. I met some friends that I still have to this day, one of whom I owe a great deal for preventing 11 year old me from trading my library for 4 finkles and 4 morphlings.
I want to get a lot more games in and learn a lot more about vintage so any time you see me online I'd love to get a game in or hear what you have to say about anything vintage.
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I went from kitchen table to Vintage in the late 90's. I started buying packs at the end of Revised and was able to get into a decent amount of the staples for cheap. It took me just over a decade to get fully powered, I bought my first card, a Mox Jet in probably 98 or 99 and I got the last card, a Time Walk in 2012 or so.
I'm still "starting to play Vintage".
I started to play "Magic" with my first booster from Revised, but I can't really remember the year. I was a kid, this is the only thing I'm sure about and also not knowing about anything, like restriction of maximum 4 color of the same cards in a deck. I then stopped magic for financial and others "kids" reasons...
Few years (10 years ?) later, I (re)meet an old magic friends and he brought me to the local MTG association. It was fun, but the guys there were almost only playing draft (a thing I still don't like today). So I started Standard with Affinity, then 1.x with "Red deck wins" and finally 1.5 with a wired Aggro zoo.
In vintage (finally), it mostly because one card : Doomsday. It has no real viable deck in other format and since I already have Lotus, Recall and Mox Sapphire, there isn't much to buy for a complete Doomsday deck. If TO accept proxies, I usually play Bomberman, but it's another storie
I also don't (yet) play on MTGO, but if Inwant to get some Doomsday practice, I will have to do it one day or another.
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I started magic just after summer holidays, by 1995. One of my friends had at least 5 decks (one of every color) with most iconic cards at that time: one white winnie, with crusades and serra angels; one goblin deck with mighty keldon warlord; blue deck with terrific control magic; a green weird deck featuring Gaea's Liege; and of course, the black deck with royal assasin, sengir vampires, sorceress queen, nightmare...
That autumn the rest of friends decided to buy our own deck, and after several payweek I had a black-blue-red deck that was good for nothing, but not terrible at anything. We played for a couple of months and then magic vanished. Next summer we got hooked again, played several months, and then next summer again: winter simply cold our magic passion for years.
In 1999 I met a friend of a friend, who had more idea than me or my friends. He shown us real decks and convince us to spend same money on cards, but buying 1 good card instead 10 bad cards. He also brough us to play our first tournament and we had a blast (I managed a 4-2 with my custom mana flare monored deck, running over slights). Then, when I was starting to get my first duals, we stopped playing again. For years we used to play at pre-releases, at least half of them (I skipped urza's saga and judgment cycles). Prereleases were a great excuse to meet with old friends and have a good time not having to buy expensive cards. In the middle we played some standard in the 2003-2004, but just at LGS.
And then in late 2008, that friend convinced me to try vintage. He lend me a UWB deck with confidants, meddling make, kataki, and we went for a small tournament. Despite getting a 2-3, it felt special. Those were really tuned decks, nothing like prerelease decks or standard crap. 10 zombies could appear from nowere. A stupid 2/1 spirit was destroying my opponent plan before his first turn. I saw myself facing Tidespout Tyrant and losing miserabily. Next month same friend lend me another deck: a UR "italian fish" with spellstutter, grim lavamancer, gorilla shaman... I was 4-1 before I lost two final battles (yep, LCV had 91 players at those times, 7 rounds), barely knowing how to play those cards. I started reading elsantuario.es and themanadrain and learn as much as I could about theorical vintage, getting hooked quickly.
In few weeks and after just 200€ I had my playset of fows, wastelands, null rods, dazes, 5 fetchlands, hundreds of sleeves, and some rogues to play 2009 february tournemant. That deck was quite bad, but next deck (merfolks with spellstutter and vendition) gave me my first top 1 year later. 5 years after my first vintage tournament I bought 8 P9 pieces, library and 4 duals to a retiring player, so I became another blue mage (with a taste for tribal decks)
I started playing Magic in 1995 with three packs of Chronicles. Fell in love with it quick. I had quite the collection the first time around, which I sold like a chump for a fraction of what it would be worth now. My rationale in selling was that I wanted to party and chase women more than I wanted to play Magic, and I never got to use my Type 1 and Extended staples anymore anyway.
I had a Type one deck with partial power and dual lands (fetches hadn't been printed yet, at least not the good ones from Onslaught) , deck had Fork, Wheel, Regrowth, Time Walk, four Forces, my one Mana Drain, and FELDON'S CANE! Sick.
Then MTGO VMA happened and I suddenly could afford to play so I did.
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I started in 1995 with Fourth Edition and bought a lot of Fallen Empires, Chronicles, and Homelands. Mostly then I played against friends, but there were a few local conventions we attended where we played in tournaments. We were not good.
I took a break in high school (actually when the new frames were printed), but got back into Magic in college in 2000 or so because I had friends at home who played. The Internet was a thing now, so we got more competitive, reading strategy and even taking decklist ideas. Our metagame was "Casual Vintage": you could pretty much play any card you could afford. One friend played UG Madness with Tropical Islands and Force of Wills. My cousin played Thallids with four Gaea's Cradles. I played Four Black Vise Combo with multiple Sol Rings and Wheel of Fortunes.
When I graduated in 2004, a local game store started hosting weekly Vintage with zero proxies. There's a point where you stop being a casual gamer and start being a competitive one, and that's pretty much where I started. I acquired many of the cards I needed to play, staples like dual lands and Forces. I never pulled the trigger on Power or other higher-end cards, unfortunately, but I could play many decks with 10 or 15 proxies.
I played my first Mox tournament in Cleveland in February 2005. When I moved to Columbus later that year, I started playing regularly in Meandeck Opens. It was all downhill from there.
In 1994 my best friend’s parents took us to the local comic book store to buy a starter deck each of Magic the Gathering revised edition because that is what his older brother was playing with his friends in middle school. 11 year old me opened true vintage staples in Demonic Attorney and Personal Incarnation. We quickly learned the rules and knowledge of the game spread through our group of friends. For the next 6 year I continued to play kitchen table (and picnic table and sidewalk) Magic with my friends. Knowledge of any higher level of play eluded me until one of my friends bought the World Championship decks from the year Kai won. These decks introduced concepts like redundancy and sideboards. More importantly it introduced me to the concept of tournament Magic.
A couple of years later I reached an important point in my Magic career. I got a job and enough hours to afford Magic and rent. This was around 2002 and I dove into limited formats. While playing in one of these tournaments I saw a flier for the monthly 15 proxy Type 1 tournament the store hosted for a piece of the Power Nine. At that time cards were mythical for reasons more than the color of the expansion icon, so I wanted to have a shot at owning one of these. I researched budget decks to get started and settled on Sui-Black for my first Type 1 deck.
I got curbstomped.
However, the experience also inspired me to actually acquire cards and learn the format. I bought up duals and Force of Wills (no Power unfortunately) and read a pile of Oscar Tan and Stephen Menendian articles. Month after month I went back to the store and over time my performances improved. This continued until around 2006 when the demands of work and women cut down on my free time significantly.
I occasionally played casual Magic but stepped away from competitive Magic until around Vintage Champs 2013. Reading the coverage of the event lit the old spark again and my new LGS announced they would be having Vintage events so I got to dust off the old cards again. However, these events never really caught on. A few months later, Wizards announced Vintage Masters. Before this I had never really played MTGO much. After the announcement I knew I wanted to be able to play Vintage regularly so shortly after Vintage Masters launched I bought up a collection of Vintage staples and have been playing Vintage online ever since.
This spring my wife (who was the woman I stepped away from the game for) encouraged me to take the plunge and pick up a set of 9 truly mythic rares. Along with the cards I bought over a decade ago I am planning on playing in my first sanctioned vintage tournament in a side event to the Minneapolis GP later this month.
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I first got into Magic with a buddy around the tail end of Revised. Those decks disappeared from the shelves pretty fast, but by 4th ed / Ice Age we had a group of around 20 together playing every Friday night in a friend's basement. None of us were old enough to drive at the time, so it kept us out of trouble.
I stuck with Magic pretty heavily up through Urza's Saga, mostly playing Type 1 so I could use all the expensive stuff I traded for or won. I was a senior in 99-2k, and by then I had college looming. I ended up selling most of it over the summer for a brief stint with 40k, thinking that painting was something I would be able to do in my dorm. That turned out to be a pretty boneheaded financial move.
I was out of Magic from then until RTR block when some friends opened a hobby shop nearby. I started hanging around, borrowed a Standard deck, and within a year I was solidly invested in Legacy and getting into judging. I didn't actually get back into Vintage until last year, when I finally completed the set of power that I never managed to finish as a kid.