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    Eternal masters roughly one month away, where's the hype (and further spoilers)?

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      H. @SamuelA last edited by

      @SamuelA said:

      THE TEXT!!! I'm so happy this is amazing.

      Indeed, today is a very good day.

      "The Ancients teach us that if we can but last, we shall prevail."
      —Kaysa, Elder Druid of the Juniper Order

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        themonadnomad last edited by

        Strange -- so they changed the text on Winter Orb to work the way that it used to, but the oracle text has not been updated. If they don't update it before the release, wouldn't we have to play the card according to the oracle text?

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          H. @themonadnomad last edited by

          @themonadnomad said:

          Strange -- so they changed the text on Winter Orb to work the way that it used to, but the oracle text has not been updated. If they don't update it before the release, wouldn't we have to play the card according to the oracle text?

          It should be updated tomorrow, I am pretty sure, once the whole new set gets loaded into Gatherer.

          "The Ancients teach us that if we can but last, we shall prevail."
          —Kaysa, Elder Druid of the Juniper Order

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          • Aaron Patten
            Aaron Patten @SamuelA last edited by Aaron Patten

            @SamuelA I couldn't believe what I was seeing when I first saw it spoiled! This will change the 93/94 landscape forever.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqvKjsIxT_8

            Pour me a brew as bitter as my blackened heart.

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              themonadnomad @Aaron Patten last edited by

              @Aaron-Patten weren't most events playing with that special errata anyway tho? I guess this at least makes it required across the board...

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              • Aaron Patten
                Aaron Patten @themonadnomad last edited by Aaron Patten

                @themonadnomad I follow the Old School M:tG rules and they did not use an errata for it. It's still a good card without the errata. In fact I had finally gotten comfortable with it as a power level errata of sorts. I guess it's time to bust out the Relic Barriers and Icy Manipulators.

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqvKjsIxT_8

                Pour me a brew as bitter as my blackened heart.

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                  A Former User last edited by A Former User

                  The full spoiler is up!

                  Thank you, Honden of Life's Web, for the Forbidden Orchard tokens!

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                  • enderfall
                    enderfall last edited by

                    I am absolutely flabbergasted that the two most oppressively over priced cards on MTGO were not included in this set. There is zero reason those cards should be as ridiculously priced as to be more expensive than all the Power 9. Now, their prices will go up even higher. Dumb move on WotC's part. But then again, I shouldn't be too surprised by their ineptitude.

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                      letseeker @enderfall last edited by

                      @enderfall what two cards are you talking about?

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                        H. @letseeker last edited by

                        @letseeker said:

                        @enderfall what two cards are you talking about?

                        Misdirection and Rishadan Port.

                        "The Ancients teach us that if we can but last, we shall prevail."
                        —Kaysa, Elder Druid of the Juniper Order

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                          letseeker @H. last edited by

                          @H. misdirection is only 85 dollars but thats still really pricey for a card that dosnt see much play, unless there is something im missing lol

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                            thoppterman last edited by

                            Wait, so they cut a white mythic slot?

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                              A Former User @enderfall last edited by

                              @enderfall This hobby's expensive, yo.

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                                Fred_Bear last edited by

                                Am I missing something? Overall, I feel pretty unimpressed...

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                                  H. @letseeker last edited by

                                  @letseeker maybe he meant something else, but I know that Port and Misdirection are real high.

                                  "The Ancients teach us that if we can but last, we shall prevail."
                                  —Kaysa, Elder Druid of the Juniper Order

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                                  • Klep
                                    Klep TMD Supporter last edited by

                                    This set was always going to be unimpressive because of the reserved list. There's just too many cards that we want to see reprints of that they won't let themselves reprint.

                                    That said, it's even less impressive than it could have been. Where's Misdirection and Rishadan Port? Where's Mana Drain? Where are the Portal tutors? There's a bunch of really obvious includes that they left out. The only reasonable explanation for it I can think of is they wanted to save them for a second set down the line.

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                                    • wfain
                                      wfain last edited by

                                      Leaving Misdirection out is an obvious show of how little they consider MTGO when doing these things. It was in Conspiracy (another don't care about MTGO set) which tanked the paper price of the card so there is no need to reprint in paper.

                                      Port makes no sense to leave off though. It is higher than it should be in both places.

                                      The only rationale I can come up with for that one is they didn't build the set to support what we think of as Eternal Formats, it was made to help Commander and Cube players. Who puts Rishadan Port in an EDH deck?

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                                        letseeker @wfain last edited by letseeker

                                        @wfain yet it was marketed for the eternal formats

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                                          letseeker @wfain last edited by

                                          @wfain my mistake, in the announcment they did say it was for edh, cube, legacy, and vintage so that may be the reason

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                                          • enderfall
                                            enderfall @letseeker last edited by

                                            @letseeker said:

                                            @H. misdirection is only 85 dollars but thats still really pricey for a card that dosnt see much play, unless there is something im missing lol

                                            85 because of the threat it would be in EMA. I haven't checked, but I doubt they are 85 right now just 2 hours after full spoiler. That card is going back to 110 and likely higher now.

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