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    Eternal masters roughly one month away, where's the hype (and further spoilers)?

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      letseeker @enderfall last edited by

      @enderfall what two cards are you talking about?

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        H. @letseeker last edited by

        @letseeker said:

        @enderfall what two cards are you talking about?

        Misdirection and Rishadan Port.

        "The Ancients teach us that if we can but last, we shall prevail."
        —Kaysa, Elder Druid of the Juniper Order

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          letseeker @H. last edited by

          @H. misdirection is only 85 dollars but thats still really pricey for a card that dosnt see much play, unless there is something im missing lol

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            thoppterman last edited by

            Wait, so they cut a white mythic slot?

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              A Former User @enderfall last edited by

              @enderfall This hobby's expensive, yo.

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                Fred_Bear last edited by

                Am I missing something? Overall, I feel pretty unimpressed...

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                  H. @letseeker last edited by

                  @letseeker maybe he meant something else, but I know that Port and Misdirection are real high.

                  "The Ancients teach us that if we can but last, we shall prevail."
                  —Kaysa, Elder Druid of the Juniper Order

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                  • Klep
                    Klep TMD Supporter last edited by

                    This set was always going to be unimpressive because of the reserved list. There's just too many cards that we want to see reprints of that they won't let themselves reprint.

                    That said, it's even less impressive than it could have been. Where's Misdirection and Rishadan Port? Where's Mana Drain? Where are the Portal tutors? There's a bunch of really obvious includes that they left out. The only reasonable explanation for it I can think of is they wanted to save them for a second set down the line.

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                    • wfain
                      wfain last edited by

                      Leaving Misdirection out is an obvious show of how little they consider MTGO when doing these things. It was in Conspiracy (another don't care about MTGO set) which tanked the paper price of the card so there is no need to reprint in paper.

                      Port makes no sense to leave off though. It is higher than it should be in both places.

                      The only rationale I can come up with for that one is they didn't build the set to support what we think of as Eternal Formats, it was made to help Commander and Cube players. Who puts Rishadan Port in an EDH deck?

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                        letseeker @wfain last edited by letseeker

                        @wfain yet it was marketed for the eternal formats

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                          letseeker @wfain last edited by

                          @wfain my mistake, in the announcment they did say it was for edh, cube, legacy, and vintage so that may be the reason

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                            enderfall @letseeker last edited by

                            @letseeker said:

                            @H. misdirection is only 85 dollars but thats still really pricey for a card that dosnt see much play, unless there is something im missing lol

                            85 because of the threat it would be in EMA. I haven't checked, but I doubt they are 85 right now just 2 hours after full spoiler. That card is going back to 110 and likely higher now.

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                              A Former User @wfain last edited by

                              @wfain said:

                              The only rationale I can come up with for that one is they didn't build the set to support what we think of as Eternal Formats, it was made to help Commander and Cube players. Who puts Rishadan Port in an EDH deck?

                              Actually, a LOT of people. Port is a staple in Duel Commander, it made more than 100 Top 8s this year alone. Makes no sense to leave it out.

                              Also I still can't believe they really didn't print P3K expensive cards... this is dumb.

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                              • enderfall
                                enderfall @Guest last edited by

                                @mickey.nobilis I own (or used to own in the case of Port since it was silly to not sell something I never use at 160 tickets) both cards. I could care less about their prices for me personally. I just want other people to have reasonable access to these cards so that MTGO can be more accessible.

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                                  Serracollector last edited by

                                  No drain, berserk, imperial recruiter, or land tax. Im a lil sad.

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                                    sirky @thoppterman last edited by

                                    @thoppterman I guess that they are counting Karakas as "white"

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                                      themonadnomad last edited by

                                      So are all of the rares and mythics spoiled at this point?

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                                      • joshuabrooks
                                        joshuabrooks TMD Supporter last edited by

                                        I never really expected to see Mana Drain in this set. Berserk could have been a good mythic, but Natural Order was a fine compromise.

                                        From a marketing perspective, reprinting Mana Drain would probably be the biggest reprint of all time (for paper Magic), so I can't see them doing it in the same set as another massively iconic card like Force of Will. They can sell these boxes on the FoW reprint alone. Why wouldn't they wait for Eternal Masters II for Mana Drain?

                                        As for cards like Berserk and Grim Tutor, etc, I would never expect to see them reprint as normal rares in a small set. Tanking $100-$200 cards down to $20 isn't the best way to get people excited. I think these kinds of cards will always stay at mythic- where they can generate excitement for the set, without affecting the secondary market too much.

                                        Not to mention, if all those cards were reprinted, anybody that hasn't bought a box already, would be looking at $400+ boxes at this point.

                                        I have to say I am very impressed with the balance and card selection, but would have loved to see Port and Misdirection. Can't wait to draft.

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                                          sirky @themonadnomad last edited by

                                          @themonadnomad Yes, the entire setlist has been released at http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/card-image-gallery/eternal-masters

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                                          • DanL15243
                                            DanL15243 last edited by

                                            I'm happy with what we got for EMA1 and looking forward to it in future years.

                                            Will be a win for me if MODO Wastelands are less than $30. I just couldn't see paying $240 a playset to play shops online, even if I have to play the new artwork which I don't like...

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