I wouldn't worry too much. Oath as a strategy is always something decks have to respect, and it has the ability to Vintage with the best of them. There's a reason it's been a mainstay in any Vintage metagame for many years.

Be creative. I always have an oath deck built and I will play many flavors of the deck from PO to BUG to Infernal Titan. You may find that experimenting with Oath will give you a big edge over others strategies in the format.

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What I find when I play Oath is the lack of consistency. While trying to assemble your two card combo, the deck is smashed by faster and more consistent decks (Shop, Xerox and PO). Is the solution running the full cantrip suite as well as Sylvan Librarys or Sensei's Divining Top?

@pugsuperstar the new narset is great in oath as it allows a pseudo dig through time effect whilst slowing Xerox cantrips. You can refer to the narset thread for specific discussion to its benefits.

Potentially it can also diminish the need for playing B and demonic tutor making the mana base a strict RUG.

@nba84 Narset you throw your creature to the bottom 3 cards if she find it, though. Don't know if that's OK or not.

@fsecco the fact that she puts them in a random order notable, yes. with Dig in oath I've heard of people digging so that they know that the last creature isn't the bottom card, having 4 cards below it if they want. activating narset does have a chance of bottom 3-ing a creature, but if that's your only creature there was already an almost identical chance of it being there.

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@blindtherapy hum, I disagree it's the same though. You activate Narset and if she hits your only creature suddenly you can't Oath anymore. That's my point. Of course the opposite is true: if you don't hit your creature you can Oath knowing the bottom 3 are safe. So it's hard to evaluate 🙂

if preordain can be played in oath decks then bottoming creatures isn't the end of the world that often

@blindtherapy with Preordain you can 100% guarantee the creature won't be the last card. But anyway, I guess testing Narset to see how frequently this comes up is important.

@fsecco Gaea's Blessing has been played extensively before to mitigate this problem.

I am aware that in a hypothetical scenario you might see both Blessing and a creature and have to bottom both.

I personally take those chances.

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