@arcane7828 said in B&R Announcement - May 18, 2020:
I agree that it is too soon to ban Lurrus. I think 3 months is a good time to see how decks adapt. But that might be too long for some I guess.
I don't think the format review cycle for bannings can be longer than the release of new products into the format. Once new cards are released into the format it can (and often does) fundamentally alter the interactions of all the other cards in the format.
Banning Lurrus after 1 month may be too brash, but banning him after a new product with anti-companion effects in comes out 3 months later is basically useless.
Part of the issue is also the irregular release schedule the game has now. 4 main line sets, 2 novelty sets, 1 commander boxed set, 1 game night, etc, all in one year, all released at irregular intervals even when COVID is not an issue.
@pilsburydohboy42 said in B&R Announcement - May 18, 2020:
Companions stifle creativity, not breed it. Just ban the mechanic, not the cards.
I fail to see how this is true. All the cards in your deck are arguably there for synergistic reasons, companions are no different. To say that a companion stifles you because it places restrictions on you is completely contrary to all the magic design principals that Maro has constantly talked about, where restrictions and limitations breed creativity.
Saying the companions stifle creativity is like saying Lord of Atlantis stifles creativity because he is only used in a prescribed list and is totally linear.
@maximumcdawg said in B&R Announcement - May 18, 2020:
Is it the way things should be treated, though? That was more the thrust of my question. As far as I can see, there is no "Lurrus Deck" in Vintage or Legacy. It's like Force of Will or Brainstorm in that it becomes an extra tool available to many diverse and different decks. Should we be quick to fart all over a new card that reaches those levels? Maybe we should, but I feel like the logic has to be stronger than taking a "Grandfather clause" and turning it into "Get off my lawn you damn new kids"
Well, If the format truly had a restrict, not ban policy, it kinda wouldn't matter because you are never fully removing powerful cards, just limiting them. Banning Lurrus would change that.
I think we should be more receptive to cards that open up new strategies, specifically ones that do not require a ton of power and could potentially open the format up to new people. If a new printing spurned a deck that was truly viable in the format that very explicitly did not want, by design, Lotus, moxen, bazzar, workshop, blue power cards, I would support that card to the utmost extent even if it was an overpowered companion.
Companion is also the space where they can force something like this. Imagine a creature that said "this card is your companion if your deck has only green cards and land in it" but it was an absurdly viable creature? G for a 3/3 hexproof, can't be countered, draw an extra card every turn nonsense. I literally could not exist in other formats but it would actually probably be perfect to add new archetypes to vintage.