StoneBlade
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I have been on a MTGO hiatus but I have been playing paper. I saw March of Otherworldly Light in Neon Dynasty and I thought this card solved some problems for a deck that I really love - StoneBlade.
The list below went 5-0 in a league and I was very impressed with March, the first iteration of the deck did not run Archon and only went 2-3. The Archon really helps the Tinker match up. I am playing around with some tweaks and I think the heavy play of Bazaar decks may mean that the deck needs more main deck graveyard hate.
2 Kaldra Compleat
1 Misty Rainforest
2 Force of Negation
4 Swords to Plowshares
3 Flooded Strand
1 Dig Through Time
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Time Walk
1 Black Lotus
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Gush
1 Brainstorm
1 Strip Mine
4 Tundra
1 Mental Misstep
2 Scalding Tarn
4 Preordain
2 Murktide Regent
2 Island
4 Stoneforge Mystic
4 Force of Will
1 Ponder
1 Plains
1 Lion Sash
4 March of Otherworldly Light
1 Mystical Tutor
4 Wasteland
4 Archon of EmeriaSide Board
1 The Reality Chip
4 Tormod's Crypt
3 Flusterstorm
1 The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
3 Containment Priest
1 Balance
1 Lion SashThoughts and recommendations welcome.
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@marland_moore do u need 2 kaldra? I think this was my latest attempt at SFM.
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@IamActuallyLvL1 I sided one out a lot. Playing 2 Lion Sash may actually be the better call.
I did watch this video when you release it and Lavinia and Teferi do not play well in the current meta. The archon handles the Tinker decks but you need it fast. One advantage of March of Otherworldly Light is that it can hit the Urza's Saga when they play it for 1 mana.
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Another equipment id be looking at is Reality Chip: pretty much a Future Sight, which is always a strong effect in Vintage.
I’m not a fan of Kaldra because it’s dependent on a Stoneforge activation. And even then, it’s a 4 mana investment for a big “who cares”
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Is there any value in conqueror's flail to beat forces especially vigor?
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@lienielsen StoneForge + Kaldra has won several games. It is harder to stop than you think. Especially in a deck with 5 waste effects and 8 removal spells.
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Yeah anecdotal evidence.
A 5/5 is just a low aspiration in Vintage imo. Of course it’s hard to remove, but there isn’t a reason to try and remove it.
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@lienielsen Not sure I understand your point here. BUG and other creature control decks like the Archon decks work in a similar fashion and these are good solid decks.
It makes me shake my head when people say it is not Vintage to cast a Noble Heirarch or a Stone Forge Mystic. Why do you get to decide what Vintage is?
I play all of the decks, and I think Doomsday and StoneBlade and PO and 8-Cast and BUG and Oath and Tinker and Archon and whatever Bazaar or Shops deck you want to play are all Vintage
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I agree with Marland here. Is Stoneforge --> Kaldra the absolute most powerful thing you can be doing in Vintage? Probably not, but that doesn't eliminate it as a way you can win games in the format. The video Justin posted proves as much.
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@marland_moore said in StoneBlade:
@lienielsen Not sure I understand your point here. BUG and other creature control decks like the Archon decks work in a similar fashion and these are good solid decks.
It makes me shake my head when people say it is not Vintage to cast a Noble Heirarch or a Stone Forge Mystic. Why do you get to decide what Vintage is?
I play all of the decks, and I think Doomsday and StoneBlade and PO and 8-Cast and BUG and Oath and Tinker and Archon and whatever Bazaar or Shops deck you want to play are all Vintage
Hey I only get to decide what my opinion is. I’m not writing a glossary here or anything. I even stated that it was my opinion, if it wasn’t clear.
I think Kaldra sucks in modern too. It’s an uncastable non lethal threat
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@revengeanceful fwiw I think kaldra is a very real and fast clock that makes SFM much more playable.
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@marland_moore New 5-0 list that senpaiblank and I worked on just dropped.
Kaldra continues to do work!
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@iamactuallylvl1 I have been trying to get Ledger Shredders to play with. That card is awesome but hard to get on MTGO right now.
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The ledger shredders look like the worst card in the deck by a mile as to name one they take at least 2 turns to get bigger than delver. How did they work out for you in practice?
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@botvinik said in StoneBlade:
The ledger shredders look like the worst card in the deck by a mile as to name one they take at least 2 turns to get bigger than delver. How did they work out for you in practice?
Yeah, but they loot. That's why you want them, not the clock.
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@botvinik said in StoneBlade:
The ledger shredders look like the worst card in the deck by a mile as to name one they take at least 2 turns to get bigger than delver.
I don't know what their average growth speed is, but you might have missed how many times this can trigger. Up to once per player, once per turn, so up to 4 times per turn cycle. You could play a Ledger Shredder on turn two and it could be a 7/9 by the time you attack on turn three. Of course that'll almost never happen, but I've seen plenty of games where Delver doesn't flip for five or six turns, so this may just be faster than Delver on average. (Not to say it should replace Delver in every deck, 1U and U are very different mana costs)
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@brass-man I did in fact miss that.
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https://twitter.com/SenpaiBlank_/status/1528355559170244608?t=0pwkOmSGnm2W_U-da3kXlg&s=19
Kaldra and bird doubters in shambles.
Birdblade challenge win
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@iamactuallylvl1
That list looks real nice to the point where I think I'll take it for a spin. -
Birdblade has won another challenge
https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/vintage-challenge-2022-05-29
