This happened in Japan, I see most people complaining about mentor and shops prevalence in top8s and while this is only 1 event, I think it is a good thing to see and to tell everyone to calm down. While Japan, and Europe have different metas for a variety of reasons, perhaps it is reasonable to start taking into account their results as well since they ostensibly also have a horse in this race. Just a thought.
It's not luck when you are 9 side board slots deep and you are still losing 2-0. Form a strategy, don't jam cards and expect wins to come.
Posts made by BusOfTheUndead
RE: Vintage Restricted List Discussion
RE: Dredge going into Summer 2017
My personal dredge list, traditional dredge, has 11 creatures, 2 return targets, with 4 bridge from below. 4 narc, 4 ghast, and 3 ichorid are the creatures, and the targets usually vary on what I think is most damaging to the meta. The bloodghasts are realitvely easy to return to play if you play dakmor salvage, which can be gotten if you aggressively dredge through your library, or petrified field which is also a double land drop as long as there is another land in the graveyard (if you have another petrified field in yard you can loop them).
I tested prized amalgam a while ago (pre ballista) and I found that when trying to dread return, it was always a little awkward with timing but the card is strong as a tempo card and is a viable substitute for ichorid if the pilot wants to play force of will. The 3/3 body is very, VERY attractive in a world where walking ballista can kill every creature in traditional dredge with only activation. My personal assessment of prized amalgam was that if dredge was ever big enough where I needed to beat an opposing elesh norn by dread return, but leyline of the void was not big enough to see substantial play, then the card would be a substitute for ichorid.
I saw a list once that played no cabal therapy, no dread return, but tons of 1 and 2 cmc hate bear creatures like kataki, dryad militant, and Thalia v1.0 combined with the reusable nature of bloodghast to try and tempo out its opponent. While certainly different from the normal strategy, I saw it to be very inconsistent in achieving its goal.
There was a list about a year ago that was playing no dread returns or targets, and 4 amalgam in place. I believe Ryan Glackin, the winner of this nyse, place in the Top4 of the last nyse with a list that did this but I may be mistaken. Dread return is one of those cards that can be really really strong, but also entirely unnecessary in some match ups. There is an argument (although I disagree with it) for cutting dread return in general because the main deck you need to beat with it (oath) is basically extinct. I believe dread return is still necessary for dredge but that's a separate discussion. Against shops dread returning a creature can be the difference between a win and a loss if you can fire it off. At the same time the card could never resolve and you can win or lose all the same. One card I've seen that some people are getting hyped about is hollow one, which costs 2 less for each card you cycled or discarded during the turn. This card has some serious strengths, and weaknesses, depending on how you view it.
The bottom line for creature packages is this, it all depends on the type of list you want to play. Traditional lists don't allow for a lot of variations because of how tight the space. More experimental lists that appear usually online, are different in that they often play a different strategy from traditional dredge so they are not as constrained to run the same number, or type of creatures that traditional dredge runs. Hopefully this helps a little!
RE: Looking for ideas on a uw deck non mentor
I don't know how you feel about adding red but I play this list online a lot. It's difficult to play and requires a considerable amount of patience but it's very strong in my experience.
Uwr "fun police"
4 mana drain
1 pyro blast
1 Supreme verdict
1 chandra torch of defiance
2 dack fayden
1 con sphinx
3 on color mox
1 Sol ring
1 time walk
2 tormods crypt
1 pithing needle
2 rest in peace
2 containment priest
2 stony silence
2 arcane lab
RE: Dredge going into Summer 2017
Dredge is poised to do really well, I have finished in several top8s this year so far and as long as you have a deep understanding of the cards and their roles in the various match ups, you can easily attack a meta and roll over your opponents. Knowing what to change main deck/side board is the largest hurdle a dredge player needs to overcome to be competitive. Learning how to play pre and post board is relatively easy once you understand the nuances associated with different match ups. I will say that I think unmask is or ought to be a 4x in every dredge list.