Kevin Cron and Steve Menendian break down the 2016 Q1 Vintage metagame, including Paper and MTGO tournament results.
(Duration: 1:24:18 — 63.9MB)
0:04:30: The Paper Metagame
0:30:45: The MTGO Metagame
0:57:10: Metagame Implications
1:15:00: Listener Feedback
– Back to the Future: An Introduction to Old School Magic
– January MTGO Vintage Premiere event metagame breakdown
– February MTGO Vintage Premiere event metagame breakdown
– Asian Vintage Championship
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I find the player-specific aspect of the MTGO data to be underrepresented in our overall narrative of data mining. I really wanted to discuss this in more detail during the show, but we'd already been arguing for an hour and I didn't want to add too much more of it.
Suffice it to say, I believe that one of the critical flaws in the MTGO results is how few players it represents, given that a very short list of players make up a high percentage of the 3-1/4-0 results.
Kevin Cron and Steve Menendian discuss their Amonkhet preview card – Shadow of the Grave, the results of Eternal Weekend: Europe, and the hypothetical world in which Monastery Mentor is restricted.
Duration: 2:39:25 — 87.3MB
0:01:00: Shadow of the Grave
0:57:30: Eternal Weekend: Europe Metagame
1:24:00: Eternal Weekend: Europe Top 8
1:56:00: What if Monastery Mentor was restricted?
Total Runtime: 2:39:25
Lots of good conversation, here. Thanks, everyone.
To clarify one summation that Steve mentioned regarding my unrestriction position: I believe that each of the four cards we seriously discussed could be unrestricted, but not all at once. Multiple unrestrictions is just as dangerous and problematic as multiple restrictions. Here's the order I would do them in, given the choice:
I know that Library carries certain risks. I don't believe such risks would result in any sort of synonym for "ruination" of the format. Some people - possibly many - might not like the result. <- This statement describes every Vintage metagame I have ever been a part of. As such, I don't consider it a primary reason for inaction.
No, I've not tested any of these proposals. It would be a fun exercise, but too time-consuming and ultimately fruitless, for reasons already discussed.
Thanks, everyone, for listening and for being so passionate about the format!
To put things in a WotC perspective: Shops put up 38% of the 3-1 or 4-0 daily performances in the month of February. We know that they need ~3 weeks of lead time to make their decisions (thanks Obama), so they were likely powerfully influenced by the February results when they were choosing in early March.
Kevin Cron and Steve Menendian discuss the mid-June Vintage metagame, including MTGO Dailies, the May MTGO Premiere event, Paper results, and the NYSE Open IV.
0:01:00: Announcements: VSL Update
0:05:15: MTGO Daily Results
0:20:30: May Premiere Event
0:38:15: NYSE Open IV
0:58:00: Jason Jaco’s 10th Place Tribal Eldrazi
1:19:00: Looking to the future…
1:31:25: Listener Feedback (The Vintage Watchlist)
1:55:00: Revisiting the ethics of outside assistance on MTGO
Total runtime: 2:16:16
Kevin Cron and Steve Menendian review Eldritch Moon for Vintage.
0:23:20: Shadows Over Innistrad Report Card
0:31:30: Eldritch Moon: Mechanics
0:38:55: Coax from the Blind Eternities
0:48:40: Mausoleum Wanderer
1:19:37: Bedlam Reveler
1:31:55: Eldritch Evolution
1:50:00: Spell Queller
2:08:00: Tamiyo, Field Researcher
2:27:38: Emrakul, the Promised End
2:39:45: Curious Homunculus//Voracious Reader
2:52:30: Lupine Prototype
2:59:35: Geier Reach Sanitarium
3:11:20: Thalia, Heretic Cathar
3:24:00: Triskaidekaphobia! (with Tree of Perdition)
Total runtime: 3:28:20
Kevin Cron and Steve Menendian review Conspiracy: Take the Crown, and take a look at the evolving Vintage metagame heading into the 2016 Vintage Championship, including the recent results of The Mana Drain Open 17.
0:01:00: Announcements: Eternal Weekend 2017, Understanding Gush 3rd Edition, Upcoming Events
0:20:00: Conspiracy: Take the Crown Mechanics
0:29:00: Sanctum Prelate
1:03:00: Daretti, Ingenious Iconoclast
1:20:45: Kaya, Ghost Assassin
1:43:30: Leovold, Emissary of Trest
1:57:45: Subterranean Tremors
2:01:00: Recruiter of the Guard
2:05:00: The Mana Drain Open 17 Results
2:24:00: Metagame Update
2:30:00: Eldritch Moon impacts
Total runtime: 2:41:21
This card is loads of fun in EDH, but not in Vintage. Compare to Vedalkan Archmage.
What do we think replaces Golem? Do people just look to more Thorns/Spheres? Are there any more that can be played off of a Workshop (sorry Nether Void)?
Or does this force a fundamental reconfiguration of the deck?
I think there are plenty of directions:
- Null Rod
- Porcelain Legionnaire
- More equipment (if you're not running Jitte + SOFI)
- More Trike
It's a chicken/egg issue, to a degree, because the best choices will be those that react to how other Shop and Mentor pilots react. Only after the first few waves of tournaments will we know what's best.