@macdeath But what if you're not running Force...like the Saturn list I linked to.
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RE: [GRN] Experimental Frenzy
@gkraigher The hyperlink above is to Saturn's list which he had some success with several months back. It already runs 3 tops, 4 Helm of Awakenings and 1 Future Sight. I would tweak it to better abuse the Top engine, add 3 of these, and cut the chaff like Azor's Gateway and Urza's Blueprints. Frenzy + Top + Helm seems like a much better plan B to Paradoxical than the Artifact package.
RE: [GRN] Experimental Frenzy
This is depressing...
@gkraigher It also won't see play in Dredge of all formats, Legacy Miracles, Modern Bant Spirits, and Standard UW Control.
Do you want to list any more irrelevant decks that this card won't see play in?
Even if you chain off 3-4 cards in one turn for 4 mana, in the dream scenario, I still think this card is total and utter garbage.
In my dream scenario, the opponent dies immediately after I cast this card (well, after an excruciating long sequence of comboing off). Dream bigly and one day you might get your own Space Force.
I’m sorry, I tried to find reasons to play this card.
You didn't mention Sensei's Divining Top once, even when discussing manipulating the top of your library. That points to a pretty significant lack of effort as Sensei's Diving Top is the main reason to play this card.
What if your top card is a second copy of this piece of shit.
Tap Top to draw 2nd copy. Replay Top. Continue.
This card id bad. It is worse than future sight, in a worst colour. And FS is not played.
Saturn created a PO variant that played Future Sight and PO. However, the problem was that Future Sight was incredibly difficult to cast in a deck running 4 Grim Monoliths and 4 Mishra's Workshop, which is why Saturn only ran 1 copy. This card opens up interesting design space in the list and I for one am going to explore this on Friday when the set hits MTGO (and I take my Neurology Clerkship).
"But PO and this is a nonbo." If you have PO and a bunch of artifact mana, do that instead. If not, play Frenzy and churn through your deck until you hit PO, then target the Frenzy with the PO so you can just go absolutely nuts and win. Frenzy significantly increases the bomb density of the deck and can likely replace some of the jank combos like Urza's Blueprints, Azor's Gateway, and Temporal Aperture.
"But this deck seems bad." Don't care. These decks are a blast to play. I have 300 dollars worth of entry fees on MTGO burning a hole in my account. If I don't win, boo hoo. And I honestly feel obligated to play this deck on principle now.
"But Frenzy still isn't going to be worth more than a bulk rare." PO is a bulk rare. You can get paper copies for 70 cents and digital copies for 3 cents. Price is a pretty poor metric for determining a card's "playability" in non-Standard, non-Modern format. And I think this card has some fringe value in Legacy Belcher as it breaks LED in half... But whatever. I am not a speculator and hate MTGFinance. I just want to play the game.
RE: [M19] Tezzeret, Artifice Master
@chubbyrain Was 3-0 (2 x PO and DPS) when MTGO did MTGO things and I wasn't able to join another match. Karn and Tezz have both been very good in my limited experience. I've had Tezz in play 3 times I think and always with 3 artifacts.
RE: My Condolences to The Academy
I don't know what skill level you are referring to by "Vintage experts".
I will say that one tactic LSV employed that many other Vintage players could learn from is playing Paradoxical Outcome on the opponent's turn. I see a lot of Vintage players just jamming Outcome during their main phase because they are focused on the best case scenario of "going off". That's the wrong line if your opponent is telegraphing something like Mana Drain, Flusterstorm, Pyro, Snap, etc. It's a classic of the old "draw-go" style of Magic.
RE: Bad store in the community
@khahan Bit late for that...
Edit: If you read through the reddit or twitter threads, it leaves you with an pretty uncomfortable "alt-right" or "white nationalist" vibe, of which this picture is just a part.
RE: JULY 2, 2018 BANNED AND RESTRICTED UPDATE
Do you know how some people say there was never a war John McCain didn’t support? Unfortunately, that’s my perception of your views of potential restrictions. I think most of vintage players are more concerned with having a smaller restricted list than the considerations that you seem most concerned about.
I think we can both agree that I am a peace-loving dove compared to Brian.
I actually think Vintage is in a good place right now. We'll see where PO ends up.