Anyone from Michigan interested? I may be driving down.

@hierarchnoble Ah Eldrazi shops, thank you.

What the hell is Spaghetti Shops?

@brass-man said in Workshop Aggro:

Porcelain Legionnaire is pretty good on a board with Null Rod, and in multiples or with Chiefs out they can completely lock up combat ... but they're SO bad against Walking Ballista in other matchups that I'd be afraid to run them unless the meta was really flooded with these Null Rod lists

@Brass-Man the old Mod Squad list (using Animation Module) was also fairly resilient to Null Rod, but I haven't seen those cards in quite a while now. Did that list end up failing or did we just stop playing it for other reasons?

@necrogeist The big thing that worries me about Thalia 2.0 is that it exacerbates the fundamental problem of White Eldrazi: consistency.

Choo choo, motherfuckers.

Seems like a lot of time to get Revoked/removed.

@brass-man said in Workshop Aggro:

At this time I'm thinking this isn't an example of Golem being so strong he edged another card out, but rather a discovery that Wire isn't as essential as it once was, and I think there's more room for experimentation here.

I've been thinking a lot about the absence of Tangle Wire, and I wouldn't be surprised at all if existing decks will simply slot in wires if one of the sphere effects gets restricted. They both are strong tempo plays, whereas that is the extent of Tangle Wire's usefulness and Spheres also act as combo disablers.

@hierarchnoble said in Workshop Aggro:

@garbageaggro said in Workshop Aggro:

I am starting to be interested in the workshops archetype, I have been playing various blue, hatebears, and eldrazi decks in vintage for years, but I haven't worked much in the Mishra's personal playroom. I am grateful for this over-arching primer (thanks @Brass-Man !), but I don't understand why this archetype hasn't gotten more love. As far as I know, there are many different approaches to Shops from different folks in the community, but there are basically know focused primers on different versions of the deck. Any chance I could call upon those folks to write up some specifics about what makes THEIR shops different and better/worse than other versions?

You'd be better off actually calling them. The high-profile Workshop players in my area (Ryan Glackin, Nicholas Dijohn, etc.) don't use TMD.

I wish this was something we could change. It gets lonely being a MUD advocate here sometimes.

Additionally, I would love to hear insight from solid shops players regarding matchups, sideboarding, deckbuilding, and metagame interactions. There's a bevy of information we could all gain.

@nedleeds said in Two Card Monte:

I'm also running Balance. To me the card is such a savaging in a deck playing Leylines. You can reliably get your hand pretty low on the play between fast mana and a Leyline and Balance just becomes an atomic elbow. Of course its also fantastic as a wrath-a-geddon also.

Can confirm, @Shaman-Ben has blown me out multiple times with Balance, sometimes on turn 1.