I like Chains of Mephistopheles against PO, since they usually don’t have enchantment removal against DPS. Chains shuts down much of their deck. You may need Karakas or Liliana against BW PO because they bring in Kambal.
Against Thalia, I like creatures. Phyrexian Obliterator, for his immunity to Ballista, as the finisher, and a collection of variable underlings such as Pack Rat, Black Knight, and Plague Spitter. This usually catches them off guard.
I haven’t played against the new card , Lavinia, but I would probably cut Dark Petition and go back to Burning Wish.
This card is really really good. This is coming from someone who plays 2-4 Cabal Therapies, Dark Confidants, Monastery Mentors, and other utility black creatures out of the sideboard. It’s unfortunate that the effect can only be used once per turn, but it DOES have menace, which combined with Bobs, supports the aggro plan.
**“The concept derives from @Smmenen talking about his approach to beating PO via Jeskai (via podcast i believe). His summary was, and hopefully is, not to beat PO via stony silence/null rod, but perhaps attacking the artifacts 'on the field'. Thus his SB features Fragmentise rather than SSilence.
As a Jeskai player is that correct?“**
I don’t know the deck that you’re talking about, but
I think artifact removal could be better against PO than Stony Silence because they pick up card advantage and remove the opponents ability to draw cards from PO. You also don’t turn off your own mana sources in the process.
But Stony Silence is pretty good against Outcome. Sometimes you need something like that just to stay in the game. Id probably play both Stony Silence and artifact removal against PO.
@13nova Outcome is the only reason I even like Vintage right now. Mentor needs to be banned along with all of the delve spells. We will see how it all plays out.
There was like two or three Xerox decks in the top 30 of the last Vintage challenge. The meta looks very healthy; with like 4-5 competitive blue decks and nothing standing out as the very best deck.
I would try a list that doesn’t force the Tendrils kill to happen all in one turn. And instead uses the lifegain to keep going with Necropotence. Depending on the speed of the format, can look into Cabal Coffers, Lake of the Dead, and Consume Spirit. And also some multi-function black creature that can either attack for those final points of damage or have some kind of useful ability in the meta; maybe similar to Hypnotic Specter.