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For anyone curious, this is what I've been toying with post misstep ban and with a bit more time to brew. It's pretty obvious there's been some inspiration drawn from the current xerox decks, although this is heavily driven by the tendency of current blue meta decks to be even more planeswalker focused than ever before (grumblegrumblerestrictnarsetplease). It's possible bolt should be a misstep or even just a different piece of interaction and there's also room for Jace to be trimmed to 1, although I have concerns about going that low on win cons.

Still early days in regards to testing so I expect more changes, to the sideboard in particular.

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Cratermaker is secretly one of my favourite cards at the moment. It really helps smooth out xerox matchups, works wonders against eldrazi and Karn and is just an all round hero (I haven't hit enough shops lately for some reason for me to know for sure how he goes there). Helped a lot by the fact no one in their right mind would force him.

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In regards to vault-key, it's tough to cut without a a complete re-build of the deck (a rebuild that would end up looking more like xerox, I suspect) as it's very light on real win-cons. It also gives outs to what would normally be unwinnable game states. FWIW, it's also something that can be pitched to Dack and re-bought later with will as necessary.

Top IME is very strong, although obviously this is matchup dependent. Hurkyl's has been useful in that it was a tool against both shops and outcome, but with less outcome, I think you may be right

I've actually tried the cantrip package and my main issue is that it takes a lot of space in a deck, and draw 7's I think are likely better in a build more like the version cosmo t-8'd with during eternal weekend. I do like the elderspell suggestion however, possibly as board tech for Narset decks (cratermaker is currently my main removal piece for Karn)

I think the comments suggesting drop the thieves package altogether are bang on, although that probably leaves me playing some kind of xerox shell, which is really where I expect to head after this event

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Not sure if I should be necroing an existing thread, but none of them seemed directly relevant!

There's a paper event coming up (I'm expecting most like 30-40 players) and It's looking like I'll be on Thieves. I'm aware it's not as competitive as a xerox variant (what I'd gravitate to otherwise), it's just a deck I find really enjoyable. I'm not expecting to take the day, at this point I'm just aiming to maximise whatever wins I can scrape out.

I've played it a bit online and was reasonably comfortable in the pre-war meta, but haven't really had much of a chance to test in the post-War meta. The list I've been using is cribbed mostly from Moatzu. I've included what I plan to run below, but wouldn't mind some feedback. I've been considering changing gifts out for a Narset (could possibly swap a Jace out as well, but I think I, in theory, prefer the Jace). There's a cratermaker in the main as a hedge against Karn, plus it has some fairly broad utility. There's also possibly an argument for changing tremors into the board for Notion Thief, but I'm expecting to see more nonsense like Eldrazi or other hatebear decks. There's also some consideration in changing the second fluster into a pyroblast or even a spell pierce for better game against opposing Narsets. I'd love to hear any suggestions

1 Abrade
1 Blightsteel Colossus
1 Brainstorm
2 Dack Fayden
1 Demonic Tutor
1 Dig Through Time
2 Flusterstorm
4 Force of Will
1 Hurkyl's Recall
2 Island
1 Mana Crypt
2 Mana Drain
3 Mental Misstep
1 Notion Thief
2 Polluted Delta
1 Pyroblast
4 Scalding Tarn
1 Sensei's Divining Top
1 Sol Ring
1 Strip Mine
1 Tinker
1 Tolarian Academy
1 Treasure Cruise
2 Underground Sea
1 Vampiric Tutor
3 Volcanic Island
1 Voltaic Key
1 Yawgmoth's Will
1 Goblin Cratermaker
1 Subterranean terrors
1 Snapcaster Mage
1 Gifts Ungiven
2 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
1 Library of Alexandria
1 Time Vault
1 Mox Emerald
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Pearl
1 Mox Ruby
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Ancestral Recall
1 Black Lotus
1 Time Walk

1 Abrade
2 By Force
1 Mindbreak Trap
1 Mountain
1 Pyroblast
1 Yixlid Jailer
1 Notion Thief
1 Goblin Cratermaker
2 Tormod's Crypt
2 Grafdigger's Cage
1 Ravenous Trap
1 Pithing Needle