@Smmenen said in White Eldrazi:
@Griselbrother said in White Eldrazi:
I see that you don't play Thalia, Heretic Cathar. Can you elaborate on that decision? That seems like a big mistake to me as it's one of the cards that's good in all matchups (although not so good against PO) and very good in your lesser good matchup (Shops).
Very simple explanation. THC is bad or weak in the field's most important matchup: Gush decks. You'll note that, for example, Paul R sideboarded it out in the VSL matches against the Gush decks he faced for that reason. Although it can generate some tempo, it has almost no long term effect on the game. I would much rather have Vryn Wingmare, Ballista, or Eldrazi Displacer in play.
If you watch my matches in the VSL Prelim tournament, you'll see how I use Displacer as a long term card. I blink out monk tokens, and then blink out the Mentor to clear the way for an attack to win the game. All I need is Displacer and mana. THC is a speed bump, and not a very significant one, for the top flight Gush pilot.
I would note that wappla likes it, however, in the Gush matchup. My experience, testing and theory suggests it's not very good, though. It's best when you are generating tempo, but many hands don't generate much tempo, and are more controlling, where THC is less than optimal.
It's also absolutely dreadful against Paradoxical decks.
I do agree that it's bad against Paradoxical Outcome, but I don't agree that it's bad against Gush strategies (well, Mentor because that's the only Gush strategy played). It's a speed bump, yes, but often significant enough to buy you enough time to win the game. But it's not just a speed bump, it's very good against Mentor itself as well.
I don't know how much Paul plays White Eldrazi and if he's the authority to ask when it comes to White Eldrazi (and I don't mean this in an offensive way, I simply don't know), but I did notice that he did not side out Thalia 2.0 against Rachel Agnes in the VSL this week which I definitely think is correct.