@brass-man we are old... I, I simply have no words.
@topical_island I love the idea of saying the game is marketed to 7 year olds by making a reference to a 25 year old kids show. Maybe WotC isn't dumbing things down... Maybe we're just really old.
This is a reason I really like vintage. I can go play vintage with my friends and we have a lot in common, mortgages, kids, money. I've been to a couple tournaments at a bar.
If I went to the standard FNM that draws most of the players where I live I wouldn't have that comradery, I like vintage because I'm old.
Lotus, 2 Moxen and Petal is four secondary sources (40% chance in opener) of mana. Math that out with a 4 off card (40% of 40%) and you get about an 11% chance of it happening turn 1 if theres 4 copies in your deck.
Add in stuff like repeal and chrome or opal mox and your looking at 20ish percent.
This isn't a bad turn 2 play.
I think the home is in a mentor shell. Maybe a PO mentor deck without the PO's. Put in some extra Snapcaster/Jaces. Maybe a blue angel 2.0 deck.
We didn't even get the vanilla "Vintage: No Changes" notice. We got the implied non-notice "Vintage: the format WotC won't even acknowledge, let alone give a F about."
They only mentioned the formats they were modifying. There was no mention of Standard /Commander /etc.
Your hand is Tundra, Grafdigger Cage, Swords to Plowshares, Blank Magic Card, , Blank Magic Card, Blank Magic Card, Blank Magic Card.
I don't think its as simple as that. After side boarding he has 8 (or close to) relevant cards in the match. Having a hand with 2 of them is an accomplishment.
This seems like a solid upgrade to the anti artifact hatebears out there (Tin Street Hooligan, Torch Fiend), it also blows up bridges and kills most creatures in the format.
While I don't see a dedicated deck that would play it (maybe a sideboard in Mono Red?) It might be worth a look, any thoughts?
@kaluma i really dont understand your last posts... so i have 2 questions for you, so i can understand the whole thing better:
Do you stream aswell? If so...
Does this jeff got more viewers than you?
Somehow i feel i know alredy the answers.... and now i understand your post better.... it actually makes sense xD
I don't want this to get out of hand, but Kaluma (along with a whole bunch of other people here* @wfain) invented the deck and did it witha lot of it streaming so I doubt Kaluma has stream envy. I think jeff is very good at playing popular decks in interesting formats. Most TMD people are more attuned to vintage gameplay than jeff's audience probably is.