This one made me laugh.
Deck is called UBG. Definitely no Black or Green. At least they got one out of three!
@Hydra the idea that morality is defined by rules is rediculous. Laws or rules of course can be immoral. Just because something is permitted by laws (whether the laws of a game or otherwise) does not make them moral. The rules about lying to judges or tricking an opponent into believing something about the game surely weren't always against the rules. Situations came up that then caused rules to be made. That didn't mean that they were ethically or morally justifiable before the rules got established.
You also couch your terms in absolutist terms which is why I got so upset with you earlier. You say there is no possible grey area as long as rules aren't broken. That just isn't true. Plenty of people find moral grey area with this. Maybe people like me are wrong but you shouldn't use absolute statements because they are simply your opinion. Just like what I think is simply my opinion
@Hydra and yes I have taken this personally. I was the first to respond to the poll and the first comment (no deleted) was telling me I clearly had no friends online or in real life because I was against conversing. We can disagree without putting down the other side. I felt like your post was completely dismissive of anyone who disagreed with you. Sorry if I mistook what you were saying.
@Hydra sports teams have a responsibility to try and win. Sometimes they show it by competing their best and sometimes they rest players to get a higher draft pick or to get players rested for the playoffs. Either way it is focusing on maximizing their future success. Conceding in magic is nothing like this. Sports teams can still win without playing their best players. It is impossible to win when you conceed. You don't get more prepared for your next match when you conceed and you don't earn better prizes. They have nothing to do with each other.
@BobbyVictory yes it does through off the metagame numbers. However, since this happens all the time in Magic everywhere it doesn't through it off anymore then all magic top 8 numbers are thrown off. Which is to say it doesn't really matter because it is the best data we have for this and for all magic. And in this case I believe Atog Lord was also on shops though I could be wrong about that.
@Hydra Thanks for saying everyone who disagrees with you is stupid, without a valid point and just trying to be a jerk. I've tried hard to communicate my minority point of view on the topic while still seeing the validity of other views. Stop the personal attacks. When it comes to morality of actions it isn't shocking that people disagree on something. Just because you can't see the validity of another opinion doesn't make it invalid. Same goes for my view of your opinion. Just because I don't understand it doesn't make it invalid.
I'm finding this thread has hit its useful limits. I find it morally unjustifiable to give someone a free win into the top 8 when it keeps someone else out who actually did enough to deserve it. Brian Kelly feels like it is morally unjustifiable to play someone and ruin their top 8 chance when you personally have nothing to play for or gain from it. They are both valid but no ones mind is being changed.
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