@topical_island said in The Reserve List - The Reddest Red Herring:
@maximumcdawg I'm honestly not sure how to take that... at first it felt so sarcastic... that I feel like it might be next level sarcastic?
You seemed to enjoy the comment about "Come on, man," so I tried to incorporate that statement into every sentence I used in response. I thought it was a pretty good attempt at laughing off what seemed like a pretty stuffed-shirt response to the use in that phrase in the first place, but I guess it didn't come off that way, man.
Like you actually think this is a good idea?...
What, printing a Null Rod on legs? Sure! It'd be playable, and I'm all for that. I know we're skirting dangerously close to just "R&D Rejects" in this thread, but really the whole point was to start a conversation about RL Replacements, and cards that compete with or undermine old RL staples are absolutely part of the conversation.
In any case, a Mox Emerald that was also a 2/2 creature seems like a pretty good idea. At least for the purposes of this conversation, the reserve list would be significantly diminished as a problem, at least as far as the ranking of problems goes...
I know the thread has grown so I don't blame you for not looking up, but I think all of us have acknowledged that the challenge in creating cards that diminish the need for RL cards is exactly this - how do you manage the power level.
I think the suggestions so far fall into a few camps:
Ignore the problem because it's not real. For true ABUR Dual replacements, this probably fine because I really doubt that any Legacy or Vintage deck's optimal form involves playing 8 Tundras, for example.
Print cards that are incompatible with the RL versions somehow. Can be dumb "You can't play New Emerald in your deck with Mox Emerald" but is there a clever way to do this?
Print new strategies that are orthogonal to old power. Like @themonadnomad just said. Thing is, we really have not had something like this since Shops became a thing and Dredge arose. Is there design space for another competitor?
Print cards directly to eternal. This is something that can easily be done, and probably would have to be done, just to avoid blowing up standard and modern.
For actual tournament-playable replacements for RL cards, I think those are the only real suggestions so far. And a whole lot of very productive R&Ding :)
@hyperborea said in The Reserve List - The Reddest Red Herring:
What if WOTC implemented some kind of "stock split" whereby owners of RL cards are invited to trade them in for X copies which are worth 1/X of the original (in order to increase circulation/liquidity)?
@Takaryx suggested the same thing awhile ago, and I don't see that this works. The problem, as I said above, is that: (1) such a plan directly violates the black-and-white language of the RL; (2) basically is an attempt to avoid trouble by ensuring no one has any damages as a result of the violation, but (3) since players and collectors are a diverse group of people, it would be impossible to make everyone happy. So, it basically paints a target on WotC for enterprising class action attorneys. If they can print money in other ways, why would they bother?
If you want to save Legacy and Vintage, I say don't worry about convincing WotC to violate the black and white language of the RL. Encourage them to print more cards for Legacy and Vintage :)