@brass-man said in Vintage tournament online free:
@thrabenvintage the people in this thread are just being cheeky
TheManaDrain is a vintage-specific website, so we're all pretty familiar with it here. Everyone in this thread is just having a little fun
Hopefully it's a good place for you to find some players!
Any more specific information about the event might be useful. When would this happen?
Quit ruining the fun!
https://i.redd.it/j1bpryk3dl811.jpg
Found, apparently, at Store of Fire and Dice on Long Island.
This cannot be part of the Vintage Community. I know they have run events in the past. I recommend that anyone who goes there stop, unless there's any proof this wasn't ownership putting this up, and they have disciplined whoever did.
@prospero Basically, my thought process was "as an already powered player, I would be 50-75% to literally turn a lotus I got into $$$ on site, and the remaining % turning it into $$$ later."
But the trophy would sit in my living room forever, and that matters more in the end. Should this be a 10k event? Sure, that would be optimal, but as long as the trophy stays, I'm coming.
Prizing good. Trophy better.
I honestly think people would pay $50 for a cash prize...and a small plaque for top 8, and THE trophy for the winner. Keeps the feel of a unique prize, while being almost certainly less expensive than a lotus.
@wfain Paradoxical has far more fail points than Gush, but yes, I agree, once it starts going, the game is literally over. I think from a high point, Outcome is better, but from a median perspective, Gush is better (and it's not by a small amount).
@evouga This card would be clearly too bonkers if it triggered on non-creature spells (I mean, at that point, we're probably maximum artifacts and casting this contraption off of Workshops).
Seems fine enough, but likely too slow. If we still had 4x Probe/Gush, it would probably be beyond stupid, but we don't so I don't think it's good enough.
(though--there might be a dedicated deck with a bunch of Manamorphoses, but that's such a reach.)
Damping Sphere isn't good. It's a prison piece in a deck that doesn't particularly want to prison.
There are a few real problems with the deck as constructed.
First, you're a little softer to Jeskai now, as everyone and their mother has maindeck ways to kill artifacts. You used be be able to say "my sword will survive if it's not Dack'd" with high certainty, and now you can't.
Second, Inferno Titan Oath is a bigger part of the metagame. Stoneblade can beat normal Griselbrand Oath, albeit with some difficulty. You can never in a million years beat Inferno Titan Oath. You just don't have the tools to do that efficiently, and you're too aggressive of a deck to simply play control until you find Mentor.
Third, the outcomes decks have homogenized into a cleaner variant than before. You used to be roughly favored against people trying to really durdle a lot with outcomes->Tendrils. Now you can just die to the secondary effect. You're still probably favored, but it's by less than before, and it's less clean than just casting Stony Silence.
Basically, the metagame changed. This deck attacked Shops decks and trash deck (White Hate/Merfolk/Humans/Other) players better than a lot of the rest of the metagame, while still being effective enough to get wins against Jeskai and Outcomes if you could outplay your opponent. Now that you don't have as much trash to take out (we're a ways away from Champs, for example, and the metagame has consolidated), and the good decks are better against you. So...you end up with a deck that's fundamentally a metagame call against a meta that no longer exists.
One of the changes i've made which I like is cutting the Library of Alexandria for a maindeck Ancient Tomb. You just don't want to be playing a long game with the deck, so just having more ability to just slam Karn onto the table is great.
@chubbyrain Honestly, the thing I hate the most (and the most unfixable problem with the deck) is how hot and cold the deck runs. Sometimes, you're like "HURR DURR here's Karn->Outcomes", and other times you're "...I have cast 1 business spell, it got countered, I'm drawing nothing but mana".
When you're running hot, you're utterly unbeatable. When you're running cold, it's a miserable experience.
