@joshuabrooks everything is relative though, and even though the price of CE/IE power is super inflated, $2000 for 5 CE moxen is substantially more affordable than $2000 just for a Sapphire. If there ends up being a "correction" in both directions, then so be it. No one believes that legalizing CE will suddenly create 2000 person vintage GPs, but maybe it means EW pulling 500+ regularly. Maybe StarCity could reliably pull 220+ for vintage events. This could also allow more smaller TOs to host EW qualifiers, which by definition must be sanctioned. I just think its a no brainer move.
I have been main decking true name nemesis to break open the mirror match, which often comes down to whos plainswalker or snapcaster survives the longest, or who gets mentor with critical mass of cards first. As a jeskai pilot, i had the hardest time against an outcome player who boarded in mana drains and an extra flusterstorm. The drains were unexpected so I played right into them.
I am going to keep this short, since I feel the argument is a simple one. Now that there is an official policy on Proxys for foil only cards like Kess in Legacy and Nexus in standard, I believe it is time for Wizards to extend the policy further to include CE/IE cards in the Eternal Formats.
I have no idea if this somehow infringes on the reserved list (not sure how it would...) but the merits of this have to outweigh the negatives. Access to cheaper duals for legacy, and additional power for Vintage players. This would add approximately 14,000 copies of these cards into the pool of available duals and power, and could help facilitate additional sanctioned Eternal events in the future.
@moorebrother1 Eh, the community is so hypersensitive to theft that I'm more worried at larger events than 1-off 150 person vintage events. Hell, I was more worried at SCG Con than at NYSE, Waterbury or eternal extrvaganza combined.
There's a will there's a way, and theirs 20g's in cardboard...I'm sorry to say, the long term survival of competitive vintage involves proxies, and it has for 15 years. Most American based old school allows CE/IE. No sanctioned vintage event does, and that represents a substantial difference in cost to enter the format.
You had me at "Austin"! I was just there in april for a "Mancation" with my buddies from college and we tore it up. I'd go back just for another day of boozing on Lake Travis, but a day of playing magic would be a bonus.
Would need minimum 3 months notice, preferably 4 or 5. Personally, an entry fee over $150 is excessive to me, but you need to give away power to get butts in the seats...its a fine line these days with absurd prices. I hope you manage to get this off the ground!
@neo_altoid i don't think the summer factor can be dismissed in tournament attendance in the north east. I have been part of the greater ny area competitive vintage scene on and off for 15+ years and summer is often slow for magic. Perhaps tdg can show a straight line decline in attendance for the past year, I cant say. I would also add that modern is a spectacular format right now, with a diverse metagame and high levels of support from wizards. I know several locals who have put their vintage decks aside to explore modern.
I have less of an issue with the format than others, but if you show up at any given 30-40 man event, you can easily run into dredge, outcome and shops in your first three rounds, and if you are on fair blue.dec, you may end up with three un-interactive rounds through no fault of your own, and i can see where that would be a turn off to burning a beautiful saturday in July at. Comic shop literally sweating it out for a mox and 100 credit for second place.
@ChubbyRain I think the Tezz + Karn interaction 100% needs to be explored. I took a Jeskai deck with a single Karn to day 2 at SCG snd it had some big Day 1 moments, including stealing a game rd 7 vs Eldrazi by valuing out a 4/4 then two 5/5s. Karn does not need to be spilling 20/20s on the board to be good. Getting solid bodies by just playing moxen and the ability to selectively filter cards make him very playable. The relationship is too symbiotic not to try.
Nick, you could give out gift cards to Boston Market for first and I would show up to your event. That said, you want to maintain prestige and give prize support that brings the wide swath of players to our small corner of Long island, you need a middle ground. 100-120 per head with a cash prize should accomplish that with the NYSE brand behind it.
I think diversity within pillars is the real crux of the issue for people. Shops has completely homogenized to Aggro Ravager Shops because it crushes other versions of shops, as well as shops colorless 1st cousin, Eldrazi. If you could reliably play Stax, Martello, Eldrazi and an Aggro-ish Shops deck in a 7+round event, there would be less complaints. The same goes for blue, though I do not see the same diversity issues. TO ME, outcome, oath, xerox, and BUG all win the game in different ways, even if they all generally play 4 force, 4 misstep, and some number of preordain (well maybe not outcome on preordain, but you hopefully get my point).
If the desire is to have brand new never before seen archtypes (pillars) in vintage, then that will not be accomplished via restriction, but via printing of brand new game changing mechanics, ala dredge.