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As a quick reference, there are currently 2 CE Underground Seas on TCGPlayer, both at roughly $450. As discussed above, making these legal probably won't do any good except for the people who already own them - not that that's a problem, but I just wouldn't expect it to save Vintage.

Thanks for getting back to me! The list looks great. I’m sure it makes for some real grindy games. I’m going to my first vintage event this weekend and looking forward to running some sort of Leovold deck!

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@Winterstar should have FoWed your Oath in game 1

@vaughnbros said in To Wasteland, or not to Wasteland...:

Some of this sounds like deck construction. Why are you playing all these cards you need to play turn 1 along with Wasteland?

I agree with most which has been said in this thread, but I think this quote is particularly important. You've got to ask yourself why you're playing Wastelands in your deck. Is it to play a mana denial strategy? In some cases (combined with Stony Silence) it can be, but against Shops it's almost never correct to do so. And usually when playing a build like this it's not to deploy a mana denial strategy. It's often not even to make a tempo play but to hit critical lands; I usually see Wastelands as additional Strip Mines which many decks play as a one-of to hit an important land like Bazaar of Baghdad, Karakas, Tolarian Academy, Library of Alexandria or Cavern of Souls.

For what's it's worth, I wouldn't have Wasted in either scenario (and I 100% agree with BrassMan to let Thorn resolve in scenario 1).

Kalitas is a replacement effect, noted by the use of the word, "If". This means that the narcomeba going to the graveyard is replaced with the narcomeba going to the exiled zone. Narcomeba never goes to the graveyard and never triggers bridge from below.

If the wording on kalitas was 'when a creature dies and goes to the graveyard...' the when indicates a triggered ability meaning the narco would hit the graveyard, kalitas trigger to remove would go on the stack and bridge from below trigger would go on the stack and both would happen. But since he's worded with 'if' its replaced. Yes, kalitas can help shut down bridge from below.

What is everyone opinion on murderous cut as a potential sideboard option for shops/eldrazi, oath, and humans? Delving through spheres always helps, so for one black you can kill anything.

@Juggernaut-GO said:

isnt spirit of the labyrinth an enchantment creature?
gets hit with the same hate as chains

Yes, anything that hits chains also hits Spirit, but my point was that it's the creature side of Spirit that is ultimately the more vulnerable. It gets hit by Swords, Bolt, splash hate from Dread of Night against Mentor, Jace bounce, etc, etc, etc.