@sovarius love that soul of the harvest! Very cool art on all of these. I like the theme and how you've had the cards done!
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RE: Dredge going into Summer 2017
Hello all, I wanted to give an update on some interesting cards and Interactions for dredge after a recent tournament. I played an interesting list at the Deal me in games bi-monthly tournament yesterday, overall it was not a great day for me but it did allow me to report on some things I've wanted to try in dredge.
I was running 4 Hollow ones main deck in the list. It definitely creates some interesting interactions and allowed the deck to come from a different axis than normal. Had one hit the board in almost every match including a dredge mirror and two in one match. It was especially good in games 2-3 Becuase it got around all their hate and opponents often had trouble getting it off the board. Simply presenting a 5 turn clock early game was great pressure. This was especially relevant in the dredge mirror. Opponent had a turn 0 Leyline of the void and this presented a nice clock while I dug for removal for the Leyline especially since he didn't have a bazaar early game.
Other than the dredge mirror I had 3 matches against shops where this was helpful early game and also comes in through a sphere which was really helpful. Opponent had a Thorn and Sphere Turn one and I dropped two of this guy for free. Presenting a three turn clock on turn one on top of my dredging was great.
The big downfall to this guy is he is basically dead after he hits the yard. Can't pitch to Ichorid and just sort of sits there. Though I did dread return him one match with no other targets.
I'm going to keep him in the list and try him out some more overall I was pretty happy with how this guy interacts with my list and in game play.
So this guy was definitely a wild card in the deck. I dropped my dragon lord and Griselbrand to run two of these. When they hit they were awesome. They presented a really tough decision for the opponent and each time they decided to take the damage straight and every time it resulted in game over. He hit the board three times for 9 damage, 12 damage, and 15 damage reapectively (hit troll, troll, hollow one for game). I really like him as a dread target but he does not present the same guaranteed game ending ability that Griselbrand usually does. However, I really like the decision it makes the opponent make and will continue to run him in the list for some more feedback.
The big con to this guy is that he is not playable late game if you are down to only a few cards left in your library. This situation never came up but it was always in the back of my mind that it could happen.
Overall I really like both of these cards. Just wanted to give anyone interested some feedback. Hopefully next tournament I will have better results overall.
RE: [C17] Shifting Shadow
@maximumcdawg it would definitely be a fun casual deck. Could also make for some interesting commander matchups.
If this thing cost 2 I think it might be a different story and might make a run at a deck. I think basing a deck around this could get you a game one pretty easy but after that it would struggle. Still fun to think about. Thanks for putting this list together! Gives a lot of good insight into what this could be good with.
RE: [C17] Shifting Shadow
@garbageaggro there was a really off the wall Polymorph deck in Legacy a few years ago after Emrakrul came out but I don't think it was very competitive. It's definitely not good enough for vintage. It is a good comparison to this. That came to mind as well. I guess the static effect was what drew me to this over morph
RE: [C17] Shifting Shadow
@garbageaggro I think your analysis is correct. The only upside I see is that the cards are going back into the library instead of the yard and the creature gets haste. I am not sure where this was really matter though, unless you are basing the strategy around Emrakrul swinging and even then it is one mana slower than oath and you are hoping they are not playing swords. You also don't have to live and die on forgotten orchard, but oath by itself is still just a better card.
It would definitely need something token based, and otherwise seems like a faster but more unpredictable sneak. I don't think we should sleep on this entirely though, in the future if the meta changes and we aren't stuck on the Mentor/Shops merry go round it could present some interesting scenarios.
[C17] Shifting Shadow
So this one might be a long shot but I can't help but see potential here. Hitting a Griselbrand off this or Emrakrul just seems like game over.
It has a playable casting cost at R2 which is very easy to speed into play. Having to put it on a creature is a definite drawback but it wouldn't be hard to hit a one drop or even tokens that shift into something massive. Also the fact that all the non-creature cards are getting put back into your library takes away the factor of possibly decking yourself and say you hit Emrakrul everything is getting shuffled back into your library anyway and you could continue the loop.
I just can't help but see some potential here for some fun shenanigans. It might not go into any deck currently, maybe an interesting oath deck? Or it might be possible to just make a new deck around this. Tell me what you guys think. Thanks.
RE: [C17] Teferi's Protection
@topical_island I mean you could technically combo this with Chronatog and eat all of your own turns and then hope that they can't remove chronatog before they deck themselves? It is technically a combo and pretty funny but otherwise not very good.
I think you are right though there is definitely other uses and like @Khahan stated it could be good just to use and get a time walk out of it, certainly not bad.